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National Prayer Breakfast

Postby Gene Scarborough » Sun Feb 06, 2011 7:33 am

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Postby Gene Scarborough » Sun Feb 06, 2011 7:47 am

Once more in this third National Prayer Breakfast I see evidence our President is a man of faith. Last year he spoke of how he found "his calling" in the streets of Chicago with community organizaing he did earlier in his career.

What I can't figure out is how George Bush was depicted as a "dedicated Christian" when he had been nothing but a sot earlier in his life and failed miserably in several business ventures due to his bad work ethic and personal habits. Then we get a person of color as President and those same people who lauded Bush now want to paint him as a non-citizen / Muslim who would turn us into Socialists.

When the President speaks of "strident politics" he certainly knows whereof he speaks.

Will the decision that Democrats and Republicans sit together be just another empty political promise, or will people start putting party and fighting behind and really help us solve the economic and war mess we have going on now---generated out of the Bush 8 years of warmongering and head turning to the securities laws in clear place on Wall Sreet????
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Re: National Prayer Breakfast

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Postby Gene Scarborough » Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:33 pm

Old buddy---

I see in your comments as considerable listening to the Republican detractors. LIke it or not, Obama is our President for the next 2 years.

Sooooooooooooo---[b]why not give him a chance and quit the suction up to Republican detractors?????[/b]

Somebody better get off their political rhetoric and start some cooperation OR---us small businessmen and others are lost in a sea of red tape and non-help from the Federal system we have---for better or worse!!!
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Re: National Prayer Breakfast

Postby Jim » Sun Feb 06, 2011 4:13 pm

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Postby Gene Scarborough » Sun Feb 06, 2011 6:45 pm

Jim---

A person who wants someone to fail will certainly see him do so! What I don't really understand it the stupidity of the American public which thinks in a democracy we can elect a new President and he can dictate with a single sweep how to straighten out things created over the previous 8 years to his coming into office = IT JUST DOES NOT HAPPEN!!!

Anyone with much sense would realize we need term limits in Congress. If the President can serve no more than 2, then why not make it 3 for the boys who are bought off by Corporate America. Think about it: How can a person spend the ungodly amounts of money to get elected / receive a pittance of that for income / want to do it again----except that his future of wealth and influence is not greatly enhanced by those who put him there!!!

Now, let's get real. The President was elected. He is with us for at least 2 more years. Are we going to continue stoning him or are we going to get behind him and encourage Congress to get off their barbed wire fence and DO SOMETHING NOW!!!

He appears to be a Christian to me. He is an American as much a George Bush. Let's move somewhere before my small business goes more broke than it already is.
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Re: National Prayer Breakfast

Postby Jim » Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:47 am

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Re: National Prayer Breakfast

Postby Dave Roberts » Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:47 am

[quote="JimAnyone with much sense would realize we need term limits in Congress.

I agree but I don’t have much sense, so that may disqualify me. Actually, term limits were made constitutional back in the day, but only for the president, after the days of FDR. The notion that Congress will ever restrict itself involves hopelessness. They have too good a gig. This can only be accomplished through state legislatures petitioning for an amendment, and, they, also, are to “bought off” and, of course, would be automatically limiting themselves.

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Jim, what you are telling us is that the Republican party is made up of those who tell lies. In the 1994 Contract with America that they said would be enacted as soon as they had a majority in Congress, they promised a solemn oath that term limits would be part of what they enacted as soon as they had control. In 1995, they took control of Congress, and as best I recall, President Clinton agreed with them on term limits. No bills, however, made it to the floor of the House of Representatives or the Senate. After those lies, it was one of the last times I voted for a Republican. It was one of the most disillusioning days for me, second only to Watergate. BTW, Strom Thurmond, Jesse Helms, and Robert Byrd should provide plenty of evidence for the need for term limits through the excesses of both parties.
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Re: National Prayer Breakfast

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Postby Dave Roberts » Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:27 pm

To my knowledge, Democrats never made a solemn promise to the American people to propose term limits. Correct me if you know of such an occasion. Republicans did in the 1994 Contract with America. The promise was never even brought to the floor of the houses they controlled. The use of the word "contract" speaks of "a binding legal obligation," doesn't it?
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Re: National Prayer Breakfast

Postby Samuel » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:26 am

The Prayer Breakfast is organised by:
The Family (Christian political organization)
This is largely an informal network of friends that has been known by several different names over the past 50 years - including The Fellowship, The Fellowship Foundation, National Fellowship Council, Fellowship House, The International Foundation, National Committee for Christian Leadership, International Christian Leadership, C Street, and the National Leadership Council. It is an international movement that is centered on the life and teachings of Jesus as the common ground across all religious and political divisions.[1] It is best known for its role in organizing the annual National Prayer Breakfast, at which the President of the United States customarily makes an address.

The group is associated with many influential leaders, from members of the United States Congress to the heads of humanitarian aid organizations.

Also know as the 'Cedars' and I think has it orgin from 1935 and was birthed from movements spawned by the Russian Revolution prompting the creation of religious groups to keep the pubic in check through false christian teachings. They have been around for a long time inflitrating seminaries promoting their own agenda.

On Christ the solid rock I stand; all other ground is sinking sand. Not all that say Lord, Lord will enter in.

Now; Obama or Barry Davis or whatever his name is had the Muslims in the whitehouse for prayer. He has taken the same path as Oprah.
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Re: National Prayer Breakfast

Postby Jim » Tue Feb 08, 2011 2:21 pm

As a practical political matter, the National Prayer Breakfast may have some value – the perfect venue for making deals and forming conspiracies. As a spiritual exercise, it’s a joke. Just the fact that the president had to go to some lengths to explain – again – that he actually is a Christian made it a joke. Just the fact that Jordan’s King Abdullah, a Sunni Muslim, addressed the gathering in 2006 made it a joke. Chalk that one up to George Bush (though he may have had nothing to do with it), who, along with Obama, celebrated Ramadan, an exercise having nothing to do with God Almighty but with a figment of the imagination of an illiterate Arab who established a theology system having as its chief goal the extermination of those who consider the National Prayer Breakfast more than a joke. Jesus was very succinct (Matthew 6) in establishing where the right kind of prayer is engaged, and it’s not in a public exercise having more to do with politics and faux-togetherness than anything else.
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Re: National Prayer Breakfast

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