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Another great Dem debate spectacle, tonight!

Postby William Thornton » Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:10 pm

I look forward to these things even though there's not a man, woman, old guy, fake Native American, boss-from-heck that I'd vote for. But it's good to see the ten on stage together

Biden: Ol' side-eye himself. Can he run the long race without stumbling. Well, not so far. He's going to rehab Gerald Ford's reputation for bumbling and stumbling.

Booker: I'm not votin' for anyone whose always angry. That went for Ted Cruz and goes the same for Booker.

Buttigeg: Dude, stay away from the Bible. It cannot help you.

Castro: Pretty smooth guy. VP.

Harris: So far a nothingburger. Can't make a stand. What's her great vision?

Klobuchar: Has done well up to now. VP. Likable in public.

Beto: Why is this guy still in the race. He's a zero.

Bern: Get a haircut and pass the torch. Nothing new from last go-around when Hil stacked the deck.

Warren: Medicare for all. Math, please? Maybe free DNA tests for all.

Yang: He of the free cash for all. I'll take mine now, thank you, in the form of a tax credit.

...should be fun. Will stay up for the first half like I do for all football games that begin at 8 or so.
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Re: Another great Dem debate spectacle, tonight!

Postby Sandy » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:00 pm

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show ... -prospects

I'll be watching. There's no good football game on tonight, and I'm going over to see Notre Dame play on Saturday. Since one of those on stage tonight will be inaugurated on January 20, 2021, I'd like to see some of what to expect.

Article by Steve Benen wrote:As the summer nears its end, conditions have grown worse for the troubled president. The latest Gallup poll, for example, shows Trump’s slipping from 44% to 39% since July.

A CNN poll released this week also found the president’s support falling below the 40% threshold, slipping from 43% to 39% since June. The same report found that 60% of Americans do not believe Trump deserves a second term, while 71% do not trust most of what they hear from the White House....

In the same findings, the president trails each of the top Democratic presidential hopefuls in hypothetical general-election match-ups, including double-digit deficits against Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, and Kamala Harris....


The Washington Post wrote: “For Trump, the current standings represent a troubling threat: No president in modern times has been reelected with approval ratings as low as Trump’s are today.”


So yeah, it will be worth watching. :-)
And in addition to the big four, most of the rest of the field, including the ambiguous "any Democrat they nominate" leads Trump in most polls, Buttigieg, Booker and Klobuchar by 8-9 percent, and even William's favorite, O'Rourke, by 5.
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Re: Another great Dem debate spectacle, tonight!

Postby Joseph Patrick » Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:54 am

William Thornton wrote:I look forward to these things even though there's not a man, woman, old guy, fake Native American, boss-from-heck that I'd vote for. But it's good to see the ten on stage together

Biden: Ol' side-eye himself. Can he run the long race without stumbling. Well, not so far. He's going to rehab Gerald Ford's reputation for bumbling and stumbling.

Booker: I'm not votin' for anyone whose always angry. That went for Ted Cruz and goes the same for Booker.

Buttigeg: Dude, stay away from the Bible. It cannot help you.

Castro: Pretty smooth guy. VP.

Harris: So far a nothingburger. Can't make a stand. What's her great vision?

Klobuchar: Has done well up to now. VP. Likable in public.

Beto: Why is this guy still in the race. He's a zero.

Bern: Get a haircut and pass the torch. Nothing new from last go-around when Hil stacked the deck.

Warren: Medicare for all. Math, please? Maybe free DNA tests for all.

Yang: He of the free cash for all. I'll take mine now, thank you, in the form of a tax credit.

...should be fun. Will stay up for the first half like I do for all football games that begin at 8 or so.


From Gerry Milligan...We have come to expect a closed-minded approach, and again William does not disappoint.
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Re: Another great Dem debate spectacle, tonight!

Postby William Thornton » Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:27 am

Joseph Patrick wrote:
William Thornton wrote:I look forward to these things even though there's not a man, woman, old guy, fake Native American, boss-from-heck that I'd vote for. But it's good to see the ten on stage together

Biden: Ol' side-eye himself. Can he run the long race without stumbling. Well, not so far. He's going to rehab Gerald Ford's reputation for bumbling and stumbling.

Booker: I'm not votin' for anyone whose always angry. That went for Ted Cruz and goes the same for Booker.

Buttigeg: Dude, stay away from the Bible. It cannot help you.

Castro: Pretty smooth guy. VP.

Harris: So far a nothingburger. Can't make a stand. What's her great vision?

Klobuchar: Has done well up to now. VP. Likable in public.

Beto: Why is this guy still in the race. He's a zero.

Bern: Get a haircut and pass the torch. Nothing new from last go-around when Hil stacked the deck.

Warren: Medicare for all. Math, please? Maybe free DNA tests for all.

Yang: He of the free cash for all. I'll take mine now, thank you, in the form of a tax credit.

...should be fun. Will stay up for the first half like I do for all football games that begin at 8 or so.


From Gerry Milligan...We have come to expect a closed-minded approach, and again William does not disappoint.


Yawn.

What? No mention of Mueller, impeachment from the ten?
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Re: Another great Dem debate spectacle, tonight!

Postby Sandy » Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:27 pm

Sorry, but these debates don't live up to the descriptive term "spectacle." They are a far cry from the hostility and animosity created on stage by an orange headed buffoon slinging verbal bombshells around like "Your brother's presidency was the worst one in our country's history and yours would be worse," and "I happen to know that your father was involved in the Kennedy Assassination," and "Doesn't your wife have some things to hide about her past?" That with the need for a whole hour of fact checking after each debate because of all the lies that were told made those 2016 Republican Party debates a true "spectacle." These Democratic debates are way too civil and the divisions don't create enough hostility to call them a "spectacle." In spite of that, they're getting hefty audiences for having so many candidates on the stage.

The field might not narrow too much more prior to the primaries. The money seems to be flowing pretty well into most of these campaigns, at least, for the ten that were on stage last week. Polling data puts Biden, Sanders and Warren in a higher category than the others, though there's still a large "undecided" group among potential Democratic primary voters. And the characterization of attracting voters by giving away "free stuff" doesn't wash, not to anyone who is paying attention and isn't an extremist right wing media commentator or former record playing disc-jockey.
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Re: Another great Dem debate spectacle, tonight!

Postby Haruo » Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:52 pm

Whose father was involved in the Kennedy assassination? I'd forgotten that one.
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Re: Another great Dem debate spectacle, tonight!

Postby Sandy » Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:23 am

Haruo wrote:Whose father was involved in the Kennedy assassination? I'd forgotten that one.


Ted Cruz. I think it was also brought up that Ted was not a native-born American citizen. He wasn't actually involved, btw.
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