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IPhone owners can sue Apple for monopolizing App Store

Postby Rvaughn » Mon May 13, 2019 7:03 pm

IPhone owners can sue Apple for monopolizing App Store, Supreme Court rules
Justice Brett Kavanaugh, in the majority opinion, said that when "retailers engage in unlawful anticompetitive conduct that harms consumers," people buying those companies' products have the right to hold the businesses to account.

"That is why we have antitrust law," Kavanaugh wrote. The court's four liberal justices joined Kavanaugh in the 5-4 decision.

The Supreme Court opinion notably does not accuse Apple of violating antitrust law: It holds that consumers have the right to sue the company for monopolistic behavior, because they purchase apps directly from Apple.
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Re: IPhone owners can sue Apple for monopolizing App Store

Postby Tim Bonney » Mon May 13, 2019 9:18 pm

One of the things that protects iPhone users from malware is the rules to get your product on the App Store. If the court forces apple to allow other app stores or the side-loading of apps it will be the consumer that suffers from the garbage that will be sold on those 3rd party sites. That is why Android has a much larger problem with malware than Apple does.
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Re: IPhone owners can sue Apple for monopolizing App Store

Postby William Thornton » Tue May 14, 2019 4:04 am

Interesting, if bit obscure. SCOTUS merely granted standing to the plaintiffs. Didn't decide anything about the merits.
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Re: IPhone owners can sue Apple for monopolizing App Store

Postby Rvaughn » Tue May 14, 2019 7:32 am

Right, William. The ruling is very narrow and specific. App store really has no meaning to me -- use a phone for a phone (though I finally learned to take a few pictures with it) -- and I have no idea how this could affect consumers. But there does seem to be concern of many about the big tech giants monopolizing things.
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Re: IPhone owners can sue Apple for monopolizing App Store

Postby Tim Bonney » Tue May 14, 2019 10:27 am

William Thornton wrote:Interesting, if bit obscure. SCOTUS merely granted standing to the plaintiffs. Didn't decide anything about the merits.


I missed that William. That is interesting.
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Re: IPhone owners can sue Apple for monopolizing App Store

Postby Tim Bonney » Tue May 14, 2019 10:31 am

Rvaughn wrote:Right, William. The ruling is very narrow and specific. App store really has no meaning to me -- use a phone for a phone (though I finally learned to take a few pictures with it) -- and I have no idea how this could affect consumers. But there does seem to be concern of many about the big tech giants monopolizing things.


I'm no lawyer. But while Apple controls the App Store that you buy apps in, most of the apps are not made by Apple. So while Apple is pretty controlling of their operating system, I'm not quite sure how it becomes a monopoly when dozens (if not hundreds) of programmers sell apps on the App Store.

I use my iPhone extensively for my calendar, mileage log, email, texting, photos,GPS, etc. I've gotten very used to having a computer in my pocket. And I've gotten used to not needing a separate camera, maps, mileage log book, etc. It has really changed the way I work. I can see why it is harder for young adults to image what the world was like without smartphones and the internet.
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Re: IPhone owners can sue Apple for monopolizing App Store

Postby Haruo » Tue May 14, 2019 4:01 pm

Tim, have you gotten any of your phone apps anywhere except the Apple app store?
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Re: IPhone owners can sue Apple for monopolizing App Store

Postby Tim Bonney » Tue May 14, 2019 9:58 pm

Haruo wrote:Tim, have you gotten any of your phone apps anywhere except the Apple app store?


Only when I "jail broke" an iPhone several years ago. Normally you can't. I found out that you really can't get anything outside of the Apple store that you can't get inside the store, other than garbage apps that Apple doesn't let into their store.

I've used the Google Store for a tablet I have. Google's rules are more lax and consequently there are more junk apps on the platform.
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