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Postby William Thornton » Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:05 pm

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Re: Chirp, chirp...

Postby Sandy » Wed Mar 27, 2019 7:37 pm

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Re: Chirp, chirp...

Postby David Flick » Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:02 pm

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William Thornton wrote:...???
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        I hear them crickets... Loud and clear...
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Re: Chirp, chirp...

Postby Sandy » Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:01 am

I'm surprised that William, "I don't have a dog in this fight...I didn't vote for Trump...Boilerplate tinfoil hat stuff" is prompting for a discussion. The Mueller report? There's nothing to discuss. Until the findings of the report are released, the only thing to discuss is a four page letter from an attorney general who openly stated his opposition to the whole investigation before he took office and who works for the world's biggest liar. If you believe anything in that letter, I have some bridges available for sale, and my beach in Arizona just went up in price.
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Re: Chirp, chirp...

Postby William Thornton » Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:59 am

Crickets are pretty good bait...but I've already read the Dem talking points.
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Re: Chirp, chirp...

Postby Sandy » Thu Mar 28, 2019 10:10 am

William Thornton wrote:Crickets are pretty good bait...but I've already read the Dem talking points.


Then you know the facts. (sorry for some reason the smilies aren't working) .

I'm content to let those crickets chirp until you finish drinking your koolaide.
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Re: Chirp, chirp...

Postby William Thornton » Thu Mar 28, 2019 10:19 am

Started the day after the election. Always a reason for the true believers to think they will overturn the election. Keep it up though. It's a pretty good trump reelection strategy.
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Re: Chirp, chirp...

Postby Sandy » Thu Mar 28, 2019 11:26 am

William Thornton wrote:Started the day after the election. Always a reason for the true believers to think they will overturn the election. Keep it up though. It's a pretty good trump reelection strategy.


Oh, it'll keep up. It won't help him get re-elected, but it will continue. Of course, one of the best election strategies the Democrats have is just to let him stay in office. That will produce a landslide for their candidate and their senators too.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/poll-ever ... mp-in-2020

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Re: Chirp, chirp...

Postby William Thornton » Thu Mar 28, 2019 11:47 am

... just like last time
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Re: Chirp, chirp...

Postby Sandy » Thu Mar 28, 2019 12:02 pm

William Thornton wrote:... just like last time

Last time people didn't have the advantage of seeing his incompetence in office. The advantage goes up for the Democrats with every stupid tweet and every press conference.
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Re: Chirp, chirp...

Postby Joseph Patrick » Thu Mar 28, 2019 4:29 pm

William Thornton wrote:... just like last time

From Gerry Milligan...So William, when you refer to "last time" am I safe in assuming the 2016 general election where the bone spurred deferred candidate received less votes than his opponent? Or does "last time" refer to 2018 where the repugnicans lost their gerrymandered majority in the House of Representatives??
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Re: Chirp, chirp...

Postby KeithE » Thu Mar 28, 2019 4:50 pm

Sandy wrote:
William Thornton wrote:... just like last time

Last time people didn't have the advantage of seeing his incompetence in office. The advantage goes up for the Democrats with every stupid tweet and every press conference.

Truth is Trump is competitive in 2020 as it stands today. The American electorate is that clueless being under the influence of Fox News / Rush / corporate forces.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/general_election/

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Re: Chirp, chirp...

Postby KeithE » Thu Mar 28, 2019 4:53 pm

People like William lay-in-wait for “chirping” from any politically or religiously progressive point of view. In this case, he is laying-in-wait about reactions to the still unreleased findings of the Mueller investigation and many other Trumpian corruptions that Mueller referred to other DOJ entities.

He could not stand it any more when he didn’t hear anyone herein point out that there are still many unanswered questions about the whole Russian/Trump campaign interactions be they illegal conspiracy or not (and many other Trumpian corruptions). So he offers this “chirp chirp” post trying to awaken the chirpers so he can no doubt apply his wisdom often in the form of sarcasm.

I find the 'laying-in-wait’ as sick.
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Re: Chirp, chirp...

Postby William Thornton » Thu Mar 28, 2019 5:04 pm

Seriously? This is the ihatetrump forum. Mueller's investigation has been trumpeted from the get go. He fiiiiiiiiiiinally wraps it up and....chirp chirp. An admission that it wasn't quite what has been presumed, even with equivocations expected from the dems here, one would have thought reasonable in light of the summary. But sure, take the track that maintains that a conspiracy is afoot.

I get that you were ill and am glad you are better.

There is not much political discussion possible here. Hasn't been for a couple of years now.
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Re: Chirp, chirp...

Postby KeithE » Thu Mar 28, 2019 5:55 pm

William Thornton wrote:Seriously? This is the ihatetrump forum.


There are some of us who have good reason to hate Trump’s character, leadership, rhetoric and policies. So it is a good place to ask for chirps so that you can opine with:

William Thornton wrote:Mueller's investigation has been trumpeted from the get go. He fiiiiiiiiiiinally wraps it up and....chirp chirp. An admission that it wasn't quite what has been presumed, even with equivocations expected from the dems here, one would have thought reasonable in light of the summary. But sure, take the track that maintains that a conspiracy is afoot.


William Thornton wrote:There is not much political discussion possible here. Hasn't been for a couple of years now.


I'll start one shortly. Please meaningfully contribute/discuss (preferably with facts/DATA). You have several other conservatives on your side. Our numbers are certainly down; perhaps we can improve on that.
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Re: Chirp, chirp...

Postby Sandy » Thu Mar 28, 2019 8:50 pm

KeithE wrote: Sandy, do not be so overconfident.


I'm not "overconfident." I'm optimistic. I also have a little experience, with 20 years of teaching social studies, including government and economics, American history and World History on the high school level, and poly sci at the junior college level. Over the past six years I've worked with a Christian school organization on legislative advocacy in Washington mostly via the internet but on occasion with personal visits to politicians at both the state and national level. That doesn't put me in the same category as Nate Silver and the New York Times when it comes to polling accuracy and predictions, but I do have some expertise in analyzing polling data, trends and making observations about what is going on. I haven't missed often, even on a local level. At least, I'm not as bad as Dick Morris in this regard.

Trump is the incumbent and just two years into his first term, should be ahead of all comers on the other side, instead of behind almost all of them, even some of the novices. As long as he continues to play to his base, he'll concede independents to the Democrats and he'll lose Republican support from people like the Bushes, McCains and Romneys, John Kasich, Ben Sasse Lisa Murkowski, latino GOP leaders like Susannah Martinez, most of the Mormon politicians and from conservative media like Joe Scarborough, Nicole Wallace, Charlie Sykes. If you want to see overconfidence, look at Trump. He talks about his election like it was some historic thing when he lost by more popular votes than any one in history and won on a quirky configuration of electoral votes in three states where his combined margin was not much more than the population of a medium sized farm town.

Keith, I'll tell you what. If orange hair wins, I'll come to Huntsville and take you and your wife out to dinner.
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Re: Chirp, chirp...

Postby KeithE » Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:53 pm

Sandy wrote:
KeithE wrote: Sandy, do not be so overconfident.


I'm not "overconfident." I'm optimistic. I also have a little experience, with 20 years of teaching social studies, including government and economics, American history and World History on the high school level, and poly sci at the junior college level. Over the past six years I've worked with a Christian school organization on legislative advocacy in Washington mostly via the internet but on occasion with personal visits to politicians at both the state and national level. That doesn't put me in the same category as Nate Silver and the New York Times when it comes to polling accuracy and predictions, but I do have some expertise in analyzing polling data, trends and making observations about what is going on. I haven't missed often, even on a local level. At least, I'm not as bad as Dick Morris in this regard.

Trump is the incumbent and just two years into his first term, should be ahead of all comers on the other side, instead of behind almost all of them, even some of the novices. As long as he continues to play to his base, he'll concede independents to the Democrats and he'll lose Republican support from people like the Bushes, McCains and Romneys, John Kasich, Ben Sasse Lisa Murkowski, latino GOP leaders like Susannah Martinez, most of the Mormon politicians and from conservative media like Joe Scarborough, Nicole Wallace, Charlie Sykes. If you want to see overconfidence, look at Trump. He talks about his election like it was some historic thing when he lost by more popular votes than any one in history and won on a quirky configuration of electoral votes in three states where his combined margin was not much more than the population of a medium sized farm town.

Keith, I'll tell you what. If orange hair wins, I'll come to Huntsville and take you and your wife out to dinner.


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Re: Chirp, chirp...

Postby Tim Bonney » Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:25 am

William Thornton wrote:Seriously? This is the ihatetrump forum. Mueller's investigation has been trumpeted from the get go. He fiiiiiiiiiiinally wraps it up and....chirp chirp.


It is hard to write anything about a report you haven’t seen. A four page summary by a member of Trump’s own administration of a 300 page report doesn’t tell us much. I can’t even write about what I think of Barr’s summary since none of us can see the report to agree or disagree with the summary.
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More than a “chirp"

Postby KeithE » Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:27 am

Adam Schiff ’s “You might think it is OK” speech. Could become a classic of this time in history.

https://youtu.be/r8gAYUupm2k

Most all of the facts Schiff recited are undeniable.

I thought that Schiff should have let a Republican reply briefly. They said they were being mischaracterized - iow, they did not think all the facts Schiff gave were OK (so why not get on with at least sanctioning Trump). They cannot have it both ways.

But I do understand the Republicans spokesman had their 5 minutes just prior to this to call for Schiff's resignation (then Schiff had 5 minutes), and former Ambassador Michael McFaul was waiting to speak. So Schiff was within his rights to move the meeting along - after 5 minutes each of partisan sniping.

I continue to note that the RW demonizes effective speakers for progressive thinking. Trump nicknames his foes (Schiff is now “pencil neck”). The more demonization, the more people should listen carefully to the demonized. Warren, AOC and now Schiff.
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Re: Chirp, chirp...

Postby William Thornton » Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:53 am

Schiffs a hack. He's playing his role. Predict his stock will decline.
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Re: Chirp, chirp...

Postby KeithE » Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:41 pm

William Thornton wrote:Schiffs a hack. He's playing his role. Predict his stock will decline.

He is a hero on MSNBC and a demon on FoxNews.

I look at how factual his statements were - most I already know are true. And that sort of behavior is not OK for anyone let alone a President.
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Re: Chirp, chirp...

Postby Joseph Patrick » Fri Mar 29, 2019 1:01 pm

From Gerry Milligan...
William Thornton wrote:Schiffs a hack. He's playing his role. Predict his stock will decline.

William, I think you are correct about Schiff's stock declining...just look at his hack predecessor, he has almost slipped off of the radar.
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Re: Chirp, chirp...

Postby Joseph Patrick » Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:28 pm

From Gerry Milligan...William T, it is not chirping that I hear but presidential profanity. While you say you did not vote for the bone spur deferred CIC, you seem to be one of his apologists on this board. So, accepting that, how can evangelical repuglicans keep supporting him? How many lines must he cross for those who say that they are born again believers to "jump ship?"
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Re: Chirp, chirp...

Postby William Thornton » Sat Mar 30, 2019 4:53 am

After two years of reading my coup-minded mod lib friends here and their affection for like minded dems, I'm far more inclined to vote for Trump in 2020 than any of the potential dem challengers. I'm immune to being shamed by morally bankrupt infanticide supporters.

We'll see how this unfold.
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Re: Chirp, chirp...

Postby Dave Roberts » Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:53 am

I'm waiting for the 300 plus pages of the report, and perhaps 500 to 700 pages of appendices to come into the hands of Congress. A four-page summary from a political appointee means nothing. I have bugged my congress member and senators to demand the full report, and I hope every conservative has followed Trump's lead to release it all "since it exonerates him." Barr's summary means almost nothing.
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