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Republicans Are Not Interested in Democracy

Postby KeithE » Sat Mar 09, 2019 12:23 pm

Not Even One Republican Voted for Sweeping House Bill to Improve Democracy, Make Voting Easier

"Protecting our democracy shouldn't be a partisan issue, but the Republican Party has decided it is unwilling to even consider reform despite virtually all Americans agreeing that our system is broken."


Here is the full text.

For those who do not want to dig deep here is a summary of the key points:

HR 1 covers three main planks: campaign finance reform, strengthening the government’s ethics laws, and expanding voting rights. Here’s the important part of each section, briefly explained.

Campaign finance
a. Establishing public financing of campaigns, powered by small donations. Under the vision of the bill’s main sponsor, Rep. John Sarbanes (D-MD), the federal government would provide a voluntary 6-1 match for candidates for president and Congress, which means for every dollar a candidate raises from small donations, the federal government would match it six times over. The maximum small donation that could be matched would be capped at $200.
The most substantial change to HR 1 is this program now won’t be funded by taxpayer dollars as originally planned; instead, it will come from adding a 2.75 percent fee on criminal and civil fines, fees, penalties, or settlements with banks and corporations that commit corporate malfeasance (think Wells Fargo). Democrats are using this idea to push back on Republican attacks that taxpayers shouldn’t be subsidizing campaigns.

“You’re saying look, these big industries that lean on our democracy and are also breaking the law — it’s very appropriate to take a tiny little piece, put it into a fund and say, ‘That’s how we’ll give more power back to everyday Americans,’” Sarbanes told Vox. “We’ve got some big corporations out there who are probably going to keep getting in trouble and having to settle cases, so I think it will be an ongoing and sustainable source.”

b. Supporting a constitutional amendment to end Citizens United.

c. Passing the DISCLOSE Act, pushed by Rep. David Cicilline and Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse, both Democrats from Rhode Island. This would require Super PACs and “dark money” political organizations to make their donors public.

d. Passing the Honest Ads Act, championed by Sens. Amy Klobuchar (MN) and Mark Warner (VA) and introduced by Rep. Derek Kilmer (WA) in the House, which would require Facebook and Twitter to disclose the source of money for political ads on their platforms and share how much money was spent.

e. Disclosing any political spending by government contractors and slowing the flow of foreign money into the elections by targeting shell companies.

f. Restructuring the Federal Election Commission to have five commissioners instead of six, in order to break political gridlock at the organization.

g. Prohibiting any coordination between candidates and Super PACs.

Ethics

h. Requiring the president and vice president to disclose 10 years of his or her tax returns. Candidates for president and vice president must also do the same.

i. Stopping members of Congress from using taxpayer money to settle sexual harassment or discrimination cases.

j. Giving the Office of Government Ethics the power to do more oversight and enforcement and implement stricter lobbying registration requirements. These include more oversight of foreign agents by the Foreign Agents Registration Act.

k. Creating a new ethical code for the US Supreme Court, ensuring all branches of government are impacted by the new law.

Voting rights

l. Creating new national automatic voter registration that asks voters to opt out rather than opt in, ensuring more people will be signed up to vote.

m. Early voting, same-day voter registration, and online voter registration would also be promoted.

n. Making Election Day a holiday for federal employees and encouraging private sector businesses to do the same, requiring poll workers to provide a week’s notice if poll sites are changed, and making colleges and universities voter registration agencies (in addition to the DMV, etc.), among other updates.

o. Ending partisan gerrymandering in federal elections and prohibiting voter roll purging. The bill would stop the use of non-forwardable mail being used as a way to remove voters from rolls.

p. Beefing up election security, including requiring the director of national intelligence to do regular checks on foreign threats.

q. Recruiting and training more poll workers ahead of the 2020 election to cut down on long lines at the polls.


For those of you that just trust the Republicans while you sleep or yawn, please wake up!


What has happened?
The "For the People Act" (H.R. 1) passed on Friday by 234-193 party-line vote. All 193 no votes were by Republicans. Four Republicans did not vote.

Purely partisan. McConnell refuses to even bring up the bill passed by the House and Trump said he would veto if it reached his desk.

The Republican partisan story is out - they don’t want no stinking improvements in Democracy. The following coalition is large and SCARY.

- Big Business want a sham democracy that is rigged to maintain their advantages. They want regulations to disappear (btw, that has not improve the GDP from 1QFY 2017 (that’s Oct -Dec 2016) of 3.2%, and 1QFY2019 is 2.5%).
- Elected republicans want to be re-elected to continue their plum jobs that have substantial back door contributions to maintain campaign coffers and often their pocketbooks.
- FoxNews watchers have been duped for decades and continued to be duped (now with Trump cooperation - Hannity and Trump talk each night after the Hannity Show) many to the detriment of their own best interests.
- Evangelicals have been duped on the flimsy basis of Abortion and an irrational fear of Muslims and immigrants and now Trump signing Bibles.

Trump’s Executive Orders , claims of Executive Privilege, phony National Emergencies, US Courts and the SCOTUS appointments, jettisoning all Climate Change programs (even destroying DATA), and Tax Breaks to the wealthy and businesses while spending has increased. All of this is SCARY as well. The US is being taken over by an oligarchy/plutocracy. Take to the streets and the blog posts.

(moved a bunch of economic stuff)
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Re: Republicans Are Not Interested in Democracy

Postby Sandy » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:43 pm

I'm not surprised. Republicans have trouble winning elections when people vote. Their system is coming undone as anti-Trump sentiment has helped Democrats get above thresholds they need to elect people and overturn the restrictions.

We haven't seen Mueller's report yet, but Morning Joe help tally up nine impeachable offenses committed by this President that we do know about. So I'm in favor of going ahead and either getting yellow hair out of there, or making some Republican senators up for re-election commit to support him so the voters can sweep them out in 2020.
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Re: Republicans Are Not Interested in Democracy

Postby William Thornton » Mon Mar 11, 2019 3:23 pm

Well, there you have it. Repubs aren't interested in democracy. What's to discuss after that pronunciamento?
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Re: Republicans Are Not Interested in Democracy

Postby Sandy » Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:45 pm

William Thornton wrote:Well, there you have it. Repubs aren't interested in democracy. What's to discuss after that pronunciamento?


Well we could move forward with they're hypocrites when it comes to morality and sanctity of human life, and just plain dumbos when it comes to the orange headed buffoon in the White House. Not just a "pronunciamento", Keith provided substantiation. :censored:

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Re: Republicans Are Not Interested in Democracy

Postby William Thornton » Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:15 pm

:)

That clarifies things...and Nancy sez no impeachment. You democracy lovers might have win an election.
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Re: Republicans Are Not Interested in Democracy

Postby KeithE » Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:11 am

William Thornton wrote:Well, there you have it. Repubs aren't interested in democracy. What's to discuss after that pronunciamento?


Well near all the Repugs (per their vote) don’t want (1) reasonable campaign finance, (2) congressional ethics , (3) voting rights.

Why don’t you pick out a specific law being proposed and discuss it. Say h. and i.

h. Requiring the president and vice president to disclose 10 years of his or her tax returns. Candidates for president and vice president must also do the same.

i. Stopping members of Congress from using taxpayer money to settle sexual harassment or discrimination cases.
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Re: Republicans Are Not Interested in Democracy

Postby Sandy » Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:49 am

William Thornton wrote::)

That clarifies things...and Nancy sez no impeachment. You democracy lovers might have win an election.


Well, she didn't say "no impeachment." Basically she said wait until there's more evidence for one, meaning the Mueller report. They've already got more on him than the Republicans had on Clinton, or that the bipartisan investigators had on Nixon.

But if it does wind up going all the way to the election, well, OK. It won't matter much who the Democrats nominate, even their weakest, least known candidate will beat Trump into the ground.
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Re: Republicans Are Not Interested in Democracy

Postby Haruo » Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:39 pm

Sandy wrote:It won't matter much who the Democrats nominate, even their weakest, least known candidate will beat Trump into the ground.

Is Lyndon still alive? No, not LBJ! This 2020 might be just the opportunity Larouche has been waiting for!
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Re: Republicans Are Not Interested in Democracy

Postby Rvaughn » Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:27 pm

KeithE wrote:Why don’t you pick out a specific law being proposed and discuss it. Say h. and i.
Keith, I know you proposed these for William, but I'll throw my hat in the ring. Maybe he will comment later.
h. Requiring the president and vice president to disclose 10 years of his or her tax returns. Candidates for president and vice president must also do the same.
I'm not particularly interested in knowing about the tax returns of presidents and vice-presidents -- nor members of the Senate and the House either. I suppose they don't want to the law to say they have to release theirs? I would oppose candidates having to release theirs. I can make up my mind about voting for them without knowing that.
i. Stopping members of Congress from using taxpayer money to settle sexual harassment or discrimination cases.
I would have assumed this is already illegal. Is this an issue of non-enforcement, or is it actually legal to use taxpayer money for these? I guess people used to wasting taxpayer money don't mind using it to get their buts out of hot water. Seems like it needs to be illegal to me.
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Re: Republicans Are Not Interested in Democracy

Postby Haruo » Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:36 pm

On that last one, it's my understanding (based on sporadic broadcast journalists' reports on cases, that the Congress has actually had a formal system in place for exactly that purpose. It sounds like it should be illegal, but apparently it hasn't been. But I'm not really up on the details.
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Re: Republicans Are Not Interested in Democracy

Postby Sandy » Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:12 am

Sometimes it gets difficult to distinguish between house rules and practices for Congress and what the law actually states. There are plenty of regulations on what Congress can use public funds to do. The question is how do those regulations get enforced? The President committed a specific illegal act for which there is evidence in using campaign funds to pay hush money to a couple of porn stars he slept with. But the Republicans ignored it. Laws and policies are meaningless if they are not enforced.

I'm all for seeing the tax returns of anyone running for public office. It is absolutely clear that neither Trump nor the Republicans want anyone to see his tax returns which will reinforce the populist belief that the rich in this country can take advantage of loopholes and wind up getting more money back than was withheld and that they really contribute almost nothing to the treasury, and that it is all working class people who pay the taxes. How many voters, if they had seen the fraud Trump committed with his foundation, taxes, and all of that display would have seen that he was so much worse than Hillary ever thought of being and would have avoided voting for him? If these people are willing to betray the public trust with their money, for their own profit and personal advantage, I don't want them running the government.
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Re: Republicans Are Not Interested in Democracy

Postby Haruo » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:54 pm

I don't think the item Robert raised about Congress using tax money for hush money has anything directly to do with Trump and/or campaign funds. It's a response to criticism of the system members of Congress have used to keep their own indiscretions and (especially) hostile-workplace-type behaviors from coming to public scrutiny just in time for another election. Of course, the topics are related. But they are not the same.
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Re: Republicans Are Not Interested in Democracy

Postby Sandy » Wed Mar 13, 2019 2:27 pm

Haruo wrote:I don't think the item Robert raised about Congress using tax money for hush money has anything directly to do with Trump and/or campaign funds. It's a response to criticism of the system members of Congress have used to keep their own indiscretions and (especially) hostile-workplace-type behaviors from coming to public scrutiny just in time for another election. Of course, the topics are related. But they are not the same.

Yes, similar but different issue, though I don't think they should be allowed to use campaign funds to do this either and there is a law against that.
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Re: Republicans Are Not Interested in Democracy

Postby Rvaughn » Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:50 pm

Sandy wrote:I'm all for seeing the tax returns of anyone running for public office...which will reinforce the populist belief that the rich in this country can take advantage of loopholes and wind up getting more money back than was withheld...
Can't speak for anyone else, but I won't need to see any politicians' tax returns. I already believe that.
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