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Jail/Fine for Supplying Water/Food

PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:58 pm
by KeithE
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Not only does Trumpism ignore providing humanitarian aid, they punish those that do.

Makes me wonder what the $800M in Trump’s proposal for “humanitarian aid” will actually be used for.

Re: Jail/Fine for Supplying Water/Food

PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:32 am
by William Thornton
I play a game with Keith's links by guessing which are links to commondreams.

So far, I'm batting 1.000. Totally predictable.

Re: Jail/Fine for Supplying Water/Food

PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:37 am
by Dave Roberts
This is clearly religious persecution for the practice of their faith. The group doing this is faith based. If you want to protect religious freedom to practice all faiths, then its time to protect these Christians.

Re: Jail/Fine for Supplying Water/Food

PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:35 am
by William Thornton

Re: Jail/Fine for Supplying Water/Food

PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:39 am
by KeithE

Re: Jail/Fine for Supplying Water/Food

PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:17 am
by KeithE

Re: Jail/Fine for Supplying Water/Food

PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:19 am
by William Thornton
I read a headline/link. Commondreams' titles are totally predictable.

Re: Jail/Fine for Supplying Water/Food

PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:07 am
by KeithE

Re: Jail/Fine for Supplying Water/Food

PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:48 am
by Tim Bonney
A pastor friend of mine dealt with this issue in his own city. He was feeding the homeless and got crossways with the city because it allowed people to see how many homeless people the community had.

Given Jesus' commandment related to "doing unto the least of these" the only option Christians have here is to obey God rather than men.

William, an argument can be made for protesting abortions but there is hardly clearer commandments from Christ himself than the expectation that we feed the poor and needy.

Re: Jail/Fine for Supplying Water/Food

PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:34 am
by William Thornton
Try for some comprehension here, Keith. I check your linkfests and can pick the cd ones by the headline.

You're not objective, not that any requirement here says that you must be, and I owe no one an apology.

No big deal here.

Re: Jail/Fine for Supplying Water/Food

PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:36 am
by William Thornton
Dave made a free exercise argument out of this. Nonsense,

Re: Jail/Fine for Supplying Water/Food

PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:41 am
by Tim Bonney

Re: Jail/Fine for Supplying Water/Food

PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:47 am
by Tim Bonney

Re: Jail/Fine for Supplying Water/Food

PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:35 pm
by Sandy

Re: Jail/Fine for Supplying Water/Food

PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:39 pm
by KeithE

Re: Jail/Fine for Supplying Water/Food

PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:47 pm
by Tim Bonney

Re: Jail/Fine for Supplying Water/Food

PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:52 pm
by Haruo
The Biblical mandate is to march around with placards etc. until the Walls come a-tumblin' down. Joshua 6:20

Re: Jail/Fine for Supplying Water/Food

PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:55 pm
by Tim Bonney

Re: Jail/Fine for Supplying Water/Food

PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:18 pm
by Haruo

Re: Jail/Fine for Supplying Water/Food

PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:48 pm
by Tim Bonney

Re: Jail/Fine for Supplying Water/Food

PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:11 pm
by Sandy
To make this a valid comparison, support for the unborn coming from the Christian community would include help with real struggles for the mothers of the unborn prior to their birth, whether it is counseling to help with the issues that caused the mother to think about abortion as an option to financial support, perhaps a job, housing assistance, food and pre-natal medical care, assistance to help with expenses and legal navigation for adoption if that is an option, or even help finding a job for the mom. That would go a lot further than some screaming, slanted, one sided political rally and a march through the streets of Washington. Now make those things illegal and you have a legitimate comparison here.

Re: Jail/Fine for Supplying Water/Food

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:31 am
by Dave Roberts
The whole issue of civil disobedience needs to be revisited. I heard this argument often in the late 1950's and early 1960's that it was critical to obey the laws and lawbreakers should go to jail. Most of the arguments were made in the effort to thwart the civil rights movement, and many of our leading Baptist pastors were at the forefront of the "legalist argument." The application has shifted to immigrants breaking the law, but it seems we are often the descendants of our "legalist forebears." Of course, in Virginia, Baptists were the extreme lawbreakers who had to preach "illegally" through jail bars because they refused to support a state church. I prefer being a descendent of those lawbreakers.

Re: Jail/Fine for Supplying Water/Food

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:34 pm
by Haruo

Re: Jail/Fine for Supplying Water/Food

PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:35 am
by Dave Roberts
The actions of the group, which is supported by the Unitarian/Universalist Church, are straight out of MLK's procedures to get arrested in the hope of awakening the consciences of religious people. Our memories are short. These people are deliberately risking arrest as an act of religious conscience.

Re: Jail/Fine for Supplying Water/Food

PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 12:50 pm
by JE Pettibone