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Rashida Tlaib uses expletive while calling for Trump impeach

Postby Rvaughn » Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:42 pm

New Democratic Rep. Rashida Tlaib uses expletive while calling for Trump impeachment
Hours after being sworn in, Rep. Rashida Tlaib, D-Mich., told a cheering crowd of supporters on Thursday that the Democrats "are gonna impeach the ------------" in a video posted online.

The chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y., also took issue with Tlaib's comments.

"I don't really like that kind of language. But more to the point, I disagree with what she said. It is too early to talk about that intelligently."
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Re: Rashida Tlaib uses expletive while calling for Trump imp

Postby Tim Bonney » Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:05 am

Its bad form and not helpful. As a Democrat I don't want to undermine the fact that the President is a moral and ethical zero by sinking to his level.

I chalk this up to youthful zeal (and the fact that most people I know under 30 cuss like sailors anymore.)
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Re: Rashida Tlaib uses expletive while calling for Trump imp

Postby KeithE » Sat Jan 05, 2019 12:36 pm

Bad words are said frequently.

What is incredible here is the shrill complaint against a new Congresswomen from right wingers (not just rvaughn but all over Fox News, the pundits, etc.) for one such use in a private setting when there is no commensurate complaint against Don Trump who has repeatably used bad language including the f word:
Trump Referred to Shutdown as ‘Strike’ in Profanity-Laced Meeting With Democratic Leaders. Note this was recent, f word used 3 times, many other profanities. (aside: the fed workers are not “striking”).
Trump has own history of dropping f-bombs
Many examples. Note the crowds love it when he uses the f word.
5 times in 74 seconds.
Internet search uncovers much more.

Also note the other curse words from President - e,g. "s******* countries”, “P****”

Not a shred of credibility left in those right wingers.

Remember Jesus's words about pointing out the speck in your neighbor’s eye vs the log in your own eye. Same principle applies to pointing out the speck in opponent’s eye vs the log in the eye of who you are trusting in. Read Matt 7:1-5. Matt 7:6 says (at least I take in this way): Of course your private judgment is needed to know who is swine and not swine. In my book Trump is swine and impeachment is more than justified right now (no need to wait for more politically advantaged time as Nadler suggested).

Rvaughn - Take back your link or augment your complaint to include Trump. As is, it only shows extreme political bias and perhaps a little misogyny.
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Re: Rashida Tlaib uses expletive while calling for Trump imp

Postby Sandy » Sat Jan 05, 2019 1:01 pm

The fact that Trump, just hours after he issued his blistering criticism of her foul language, indulged in about fifteen minutes worth of curse words and foul language in addressing the opposition to his boondoggle, tax and spend wall. That does not excuse the use of expletives by the congresswoman, but it does nullify any criticism of her from his self-righteous supporters.
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Re: Rashida Tlaib uses expletive while calling for Trump imp

Postby Haruo » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:43 pm

Yeah, Tlaib at least has youth as a defense, whereas Trump only has gender.

Both should get a little flak for their vocabularies, but not a lot. It's normal these days (though rare in church).
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Re: Rashida Tlaib uses expletive while calling for Trump imp

Postby Tim Bonney » Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:08 pm

Haruo wrote:Yeah, Tlaib at least has youth as a defense, whereas Trump only has gender.

Both should get a little flak for their vocabularies, but not a lot. It's normal these days (though rare in church).


On target there Haruo.
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Re: Rashida Tlaib uses expletive while calling for Trump imp

Postby Rvaughn » Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:58 pm

KeithE wrote:What is incredible here is the shrill complaint against a new Congresswomen from right wingers (not just rvaughn...
Keith, please point out my shrill complaint against a new Congresswoman?? Posting a news link is a "shrill complaint"? Are all news links posted at BaptistLife.com shrill complaints?
KeithE wrote:Rvaughn - Take back your link or augment your complaint to include Trump. As is, it only shows extreme political bias and perhaps a little misogyny.
Keith, wow, with the accusations! First shrill complaint for posting a link, then extreme political bias and a little misogyny! Just, wow.

I will not "take back my link". It is a news report. As far as I can tell it is not inaccurate and Rashida Tlaib did not deny it (in fact seemed to sort of double-down, like Trump does). If you as a moderator think this link is out of line, then I believe you are able to remove it.

I don't spend my time defending Trump, did not vote for him (and will not vote for him next time), and don't appreciate his manner of speech. I don't spend time at BaptistLife.com forum complaining about him, though, because there are plenty others here who quite relish it, so there is no lack!

I was curious to see how many who "shrillingly complain" about the bad public discourse of Trump would rush to make this about him rather than "the new Congresswomen." I also found it interesting that several of the new House Democratic majority, like Nadler, disagreed with the language, but appeared to disagree more with the message. It may be that they think it more politically expedient to beat him in the next election rather than get bogged down in impeachment proceedings.
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Re: Rashida Tlaib uses expletive while calling for Trump imp

Postby Rvaughn » Sat Jan 05, 2019 10:03 pm

Haruo wrote:Yeah, Tlaib at least has youth as a defense, whereas Trump only has gender.

Both should get a little flak for their vocabularies, but not a lot. It's normal these days (though rare in church).
All too normal, but not for the better.
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Re: Rashida Tlaib uses expletive while calling for Trump imp

Postby Sandy » Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:48 pm

Rvaughn wrote: I was curious to see how many who "shrillingly complain" about the bad public discourse of Trump would rush to make this about him rather than "the new Congresswomen." I also found it interesting that several of the new House Democratic majority, like Nadler, disagreed with the language, but appeared to disagree more with the message. It may be that they think it more politically expedient to beat him in the next election rather than get bogged down in impeachment proceedings.


Using the kind of language that Trump, and this particular congresswoman, used in public discourse is inappropriate and to use an old fashioned term, is unbecoming of a person in public office, regardless of their political affiliation. I understand there are new Democratic members of congress who want to impeach Trump and goodness knows he's been corrupt enough to easily meet the threshold of high crimes and misdemeanors without the mountain of evidence that the Mueller investigation has amassed. In the long run, I think that will be the clincher. But he's done enough already to be impeached on several counts and any reasonable analysis of the mid term election results shows that the surge in voter participation that produced a blue wave came out to elect representatives that would have the guts to impeach and remove him.
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Re: Rashida Tlaib uses expletive while calling for Trump imp

Postby Rvaughn » Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:51 pm

Tim Bonney wrote:I chalk this up to youthful zeal (and the fact that most people I know under 30 cuss like sailors anymore.)

Haruo wrote:Yeah, Tlaib at least has youth as a defense...

Not terribly important, but I do wonder if you are confusing her with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who is under 30 and never served in office before? On the other hand, Rashida Tlaib is 42 (according to Wikipedia) and served in the Michigan State House of Representatives from 2009-2014 (didn't run again because of term limits). Still 42 is quite youthful, probably, compared to most members of BaptistLife.com! :-)
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Re: Rashida Tlaib uses expletive while calling for Trump imp

Postby Haruo » Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:48 pm

Being 64, and old enough to remember the song when it was fresh, I consider anything under 45 in a politician to be youth, both as to standards of decency and as to level of maturity and/or experience, whereas I feel roughly the President's peer agewise (I know he's a bit older, but not near as much so as they are younger) and I consider myself his superior in both standards of decency and level of maturity. Can't speak to the experience bit really; I've been running for President since 1968, but like him, I never held secular elective office before unless you count ASB Parliamentarian, which I think was actually appointive. I have more experience than Trump in church offices, though.
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Re: Rashida Tlaib uses expletive while calling for Trump imp

Postby Rvaughn » Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:39 pm

Haruo wrote:Being 64, and old enough to remember the song when it was fresh...
Yesterday (When I Was Young)?
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Re: Rashida Tlaib uses expletive while calling for Trump imp

Postby Haruo » Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:50 pm

Rvaughn wrote:
Haruo wrote:Being 64, and old enough to remember the song when it was fresh...
Yesterday (When I Was Young)?

I actually had When I'm Sixty-Four in mind.

https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/beatles/whenimsixtyfour.html
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Re: Rashida Tlaib uses expletive while calling for Trump imp

Postby Rvaughn » Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:26 am

I had forgotten about that one!

Now I'll try to forget again. :-)
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Re: Rashida Tlaib uses expletive while calling for Trump imp

Postby Tim Bonney » Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:50 am

Rvaughn wrote:Not terribly important, but I do wonder if you are confusing her with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who is under 30 and never served in office before? On the other hand, Rashida Tlaib is 42 (according to Wikipedia) and served in the Michigan State House of Representatives from 2009-2014 (didn't run again because of term limits). Still 42 is quite youthful, probably, compared to most members of BaptistLife.com! :-)


I could indeed have been confusing her age. :-) Though as I’m 55, 42 year olds look pretty young to me as well.

For whatever reason, what we have termed vulgar language seems to be a lot more common, not just among politicians like Representative Tlaib and the President, but in much of society. I’m not sure how I feel about that. But it is what it is.

I had someone tell me that not all languages have curse words. Any linguists out there can verify that?
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Re: Rashida Tlaib uses expletive while calling for Trump imp

Postby Haruo » Mon Jan 07, 2019 4:57 pm

Looks like this morning's news is reporting the First Lady of Canada also used the m... expletive to describe our President.
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