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BaptistLife.Com Forums. • View topic - Black female governor for GA?
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Re: Black female governor for GA?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 5:28 am
by Jon Estes

Re: Black female governor for GA?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 5:47 pm
by Sandy
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epoll ... -6628.html

And that's a conservative composite poll. If Kemp has to "self destruct" to lose, then he must've pulled the plug on the grenade he was holding. A Republican trump boot licker in a southern state should be in better than a "toss up" race.

This is a typical Republican tactic to suppress the vote. Claim that it is an ID issue. It's not. Kemp has control of the registration, and he's seeking out registrations in heavily African American areas to randomly cancel, or to create problems. It's a straw man issue. There are few actual cases of genuine voter fraud and even if there were, in Georgia with the Republicans in charge of the system, they would be at fault.

If an African American female is drawing the kind of money from inside the state that she is, and get the kind of polling numbers she is, in Georgia, it bodes well for Democrats in other parts of the country.

Re: Black female governor for GA?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 6:07 pm
by William Thornton
I love an optimist. Kemps a weak candidate. Still, if Abrams wins it will be quite notable. Darling of the libs.

Re: Black female governor for GA?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:52 am
by Sandy

Re: Black female governor for GA?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:28 am
by William Thornton
If it comes out that Kemp liked teeny boppers, I'd expect him to lose. He is fairly easy to like, unlike the perpetually angry and idiotic Moore. I wouldn't have voted for Moore even without the teen dating stuff.

Re: Black female governor for GA?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:27 am
by Jon Estes

Re: Black female governor for GA?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:53 am
by Joseph Patrick

Re: Black female governor for GA?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:21 pm
by Sandy

Re: Black female governor for GA?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:07 pm
by Jon Estes

Re: Black female governor for GA?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:48 pm
by Haruo
It appears there is a point on which Abrams and Trump are in agreement.

There are also undocumented immigrants in the GOP base, probably not as many I would guess, but a guess is all it would be. I've actually seen more hard evidence of this than I have of the undocked blue ballots. But not much can be done to make the whole question more than anecdotal-cum-speculative, far as I can see.

Re: Black female governor for GA?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:02 pm
by Sandy
There have been so few voter fraud cases involving "undocumented" workers, it's not on anyone's radar screen. It's good talk around supporters of orange hair, but that's about it. And while this Abrams video looks pieced together and taken out of context, it's pretty clear she is not an advocate for undocumented workers voting, though she clearly is saying that they are included in all of her constituency. It's become an issue that allows Republicans to legitimize the kind of voter suppression they need to win elections, especially in places like Georgia, where the black vote can make a big difference if it turns out. According to Rachel Maddow, Secretary of State Kemp has suppressed and messed with the voter registration of more than 600,000 mostly African American Georgians. And this recent suppression is aimed at the mid-terms because his lead has shrunk down to, well, nothing. Race is a toss up.

Re: Black female governor for GA?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:05 pm
by Jon Estes

Re: Black female governor for GA?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:25 pm
by Haruo

Re: Black female governor for GA?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 12:25 am
by Jon Estes

Re: Black female governor for GA?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:19 am
by Dave Roberts

Re: Black female governor for GA?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:21 am
by Sandy
https://www.salon.com/2018/10/14/rachel ... n_partner/

The registrations being cancelled are not "non-Americans." Most of them are African Americans in predominantly African American precincts. Translated, they are non-white, non-Republican voters.

Even more ridiculous is the requirement that in order to vote in North Dakota, people have to provide a street address rather than a P.O. Box. So, something like two thirds of the residents of the Standing Rock Indian Reservation will have their right to vote taken away intentionally, because there are no street addresses on the reservation and they are the voting block that made the difference in the election of a Democrat to the Senate from North Dakota the last time.

The claim that "non-Americans" vote and affect election outcomes is just another Trump lie and more fear trumped up by racist bigotry.

Re: Black female governor for GA?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:46 am
by Dave Roberts

Re: Black female governor for GA?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:37 pm
by Haruo

Re: Black female governor for GA?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:28 pm
by Neil Heath
To clarify the charge of undocumented voters that came up, I'm told she was talking about the "blue wave" as including lots of different people groups, white, black, gay, straight, dreamers, etc. But she was not saying they were all voters. Just that they were part of the coming change.

Re: Black female governor for GA?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:55 am
by Jon Estes

Re: Black female governor for GA?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:39 pm
by Sandy

Re: Black female governor for GA?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:12 pm
by William Thornton
Well, the Democratic Socialists of America did say "Abrams fights the good fight."

Tuition grants and free college for illegal immigrants, abolish ICE...the usual dem stuff.

Three weeks...we'll see.

Re: Black female governor for GA?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:43 pm
by Joseph Patrick
From Gerry Milligan

William, you said, “Not a snowball's chance in Gehenna. But let's dream:” and later said: “I hear that Abrams needs about 25% of the white vote. Not sure she can get there. She's a good candidate.” and then, “Abrams would sandblast Lee, Davis, and Jackson off of Stone Mountain.” And finally, “Tuition grants and free college for illegal immigrants, abolish ICE...the usual dem stuff."

About two assertions you have made...Stone Mountain and Free tuition for illegal immigrants...I have read Stacy Abrams web site and could not find either of these assertions. Could you point me to the documentation?

Re: Black female governor for GA?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:35 am
by Jon Estes

Re: Black female governor for GA?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:02 am
by William Thornton
https://politics.myajc.com/blog/politic ... Vb79LdVMJ/

She is somewhat equivocal on the matter lately...with the election pending.

https://www.ajc.com/news/state--regiona ... XPIadclyL/

Her campaign doesn't deny that she appeared before the DSA group. They like her.

https://politics.myajc.com/blog/politic ... olWfWE6UJ/

The issue is the GA lottery tuition scholarship being given to non-citizens. Abrams would certainly like to change the current prohibition on the matter.
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Not on Abrams' campaign site, you say? Well, I wouldn't expect these things to be.

I doubt many people are left whose mind may be changed on the candidates. The goal is turnout. There are worse Dems than Abrams and better Reps than Kemp. Unfortunately, we have to choose between the two. I'll vote for Kemp. Not much of a decision to be made there.