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Freed from the need to be partisan...

Postby KeithE » Wed May 30, 2018 7:51 am

Gowdy says FBI 'did exactly what my fellow citizens would want them to do' in Russia investigation
(Gowdy is not running again)

just as Adam Schiff has said.

SPYGATE is bad propaganda.

Face it - Russia helped Trump win. Putin hated Hillary and saw in Trump someone he could work with. There were 3500+ Russian troll-farmed-created Facebook ads and DNC email thefts/release. Like James Clapper I believe it made the difference -listen to Russia 'turned' election for Trump, Clapper believes.

I’ll be interested in seeing this discussed after I return from a trip on June 15.
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Re: Freed from the need to be partisan...

Postby Dave Roberts » Wed May 30, 2018 8:36 am

All the arguments I have heard against this are arguments against facts either trying to deny them or replace them with "alternative truths." It's hard to win those arguments because people who deny facts aren't willing to deal with those that are accurately reported.
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Re: Freed from the need to be partisan...

Postby Sandy » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:34 am

What little is known about what Mueller has come up with so far is enough to impeach and remove. But even without that, this presidency has been the most corrupt in history in the short time Trump has been in office. Partisanship will have to give way to facts and reality at some point. There is a reckoning with voters shaping up in November, more than most pundits are willing to predict. Now, with the mentally imbalanced, insane Giuliani in charge of the legal team, they're talking about how invincible Trump would be even if he decided to assassinate Comey.

The sooner Trump is gone, the better for the country. It will take years to recover now.
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Re: Freed from the need to be partisan...

Postby Dave Roberts » Mon Jun 04, 2018 7:25 am

Sandy wrote:What little is known about what Mueller has come up with so far is enough to impeach and remove. But even without that, this presidency has been the most corrupt in history in the short time Trump has been in office. Partisanship will have to give way to facts and reality at some point. There is a reckoning with voters shaping up in November, more than most pundits are willing to predict. Now, with the mentally imbalanced, insane Giuliani in charge of the legal team, they're talking about how invincible Trump would be even if he decided to assassinate Comey.

The sooner Trump is gone, the better for the country. It will take years to recover now.


Giuliani is not talking about life in a representative democracy. An idea like assassinating Comey is what happens in a dictatorship. Trump brought aboard a guy who is doing everything to make him even more impeachable. My suspicion is that he will be more of a detriment than he might ever be a help. He certainly does not advocate a nation with the "rule of law."
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