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Embassy to Jerusalem pronto

Postby Haruo » Mon May 14, 2018 12:32 pm

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Re: Embassy to Jerusalem pronto

Postby Joseph Patrick » Mon May 14, 2018 2:42 pm

From Gerry Milligan

Is our bone spurred president trying to anger all of the Muslims that he wants to ban? I cannot see a logical reason for the USA to spend the multiple millions of dollars to move the embassy when there is a more than adequate embassy in Tel Aviv. I think that it would not be wise to identify one's self as being from the USA if that person was in East Jerusalem, Bethlehem or Ramallah.
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Re: Embassy to Jerusalem pronto

Postby KeithE » Mon May 14, 2018 4:24 pm

I think this president relishes the support he can get from a sizable chunk of evangelicals (maybe 10% of America who feel this is moving us toward some Armageddon-like event). It is not because he believes in some brand of eschatology, but he is courting votes while sticking it to those who value justice to the cheers of his base base.

Israel’s attack on the Gazan protest has killed over 50 and injured over 900 so far (in the last two days). Sure Hamas may have orchestrated a protest but there is no good reason for the IDF attacking with such ferocity.

I’m glad I got my Holy Land trip over and done with. It was interesting that most reasonable peace-favoring people on both sides favor a one-state solution where both sides live in peace. Co-ethnicities have learned to live together all over the globe. It is happening in many areas within Palestine-Israel today (heard that from several on both sides - I start up conversations a lot and went to one debate).

The triumvirate of Trump/Netanyahu/certain America preachers are celebrating today. Sick.

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Re: Embassy to Jerusalem pronto

Postby Dave Roberts » Mon May 14, 2018 7:16 pm

It's interesting that dispensational premillenialists only love Israel and support it if it gets itself in a war to end the world.
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Re: Embassy to Jerusalem pronto

Postby KeithE » Tue May 15, 2018 1:09 pm

As World Condemns 'Appalling' Crimes, US Defends Israeli Massacre in Gaza and Blocks Call for UN Probe

UN Security Council condemned Israel and called for investigation. But the US used its Security Council veto, to block both the condemnation and even the investigation.

The US is going rogue - favoring international criminal activity.
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Re: Embassy to Jerusalem pronto

Postby Haruo » Tue May 15, 2018 10:34 pm

Fox News wrote:Hamas wants Palestinians killed to score propaganda points against Israel


Okay, so then why is the IDF so ready and willing to do Hamas's bidding?
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Re: Embassy to Jerusalem pronto

Postby KeithE » Wed May 16, 2018 7:06 am

Haruo wrote:
Fox News wrote:Hamas wants Palestinians killed to score propaganda points against Israel


Okay, so then why is the IDF so ready and willing to do Hamas's bidding?


Fox News' rationalization is ridiculous.
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Re: Embassy to Jerusalem pronto

Postby Sandy » Wed May 16, 2018 8:08 am

Dave Roberts wrote:It's interesting that dispensational premillenialists only love Israel and support it if it gets itself in a war to end the world.


Even if you believe in an almost literalist overlay of scripture applied to dispensational, premillenial doctrine, I don't see where it matters one way or another whether the "capital" of a nation of Israel is in Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, or Bethlehem for that matter.

The American ideal of all persons being created equal falls apart in a theology that clearly sees anyone of Palestinian Arabic descent as inferior to Jews, and by extension, White Christians, and just disposable pawns in some kind of Armageddon scenario. And yet, the vast majority of Christians in the country of Israel are Palestinian Arabs, not Jews, and they are the only people in the country among whom the government allows open evangelistic activity. The majority of Jews in Israel are ZIonist, and for the most part, either Atheist, or hold symbolic views of God and faith associated with the most liberal elements of Judaism.

I don't think inflaming tensions in the Middle East, or causing more trouble in Iran by nixing the nuclear disarmament treaty there will get the Trumpster many points with the Nobel Peace Prize committee, as if they'd ever even think about it. Now it looks like the North Koreans will pull out of the summit as well.
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Re: Embassy to Jerusalem pronto

Postby Dave Roberts » Wed May 16, 2018 8:14 am

North Korea is playing us so that we realize that we are not in control of this summit, if it happens. They are, and we are being taken along for the propaganda value. I pray something good can come from it, but I have my deep suspicions on the NK leader.
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