Best I've Seen on the NFL Protest issue....

[Sandy]

[KeithE]

Public arguments are often framed by the two sides in different manners. To Kaepernick and other NFLfers, the issue is about police brutality/even killings of blacks; to Trump and his followers it is about respect for the flag, the national anthem, and the military. Trump is playing the “nationalism” card and calling on his base and whoever will listen to put down (even have fired) Kaepernick and other NFLers (abuse of power in my view). And here is the point - he never acknowledges Kaerpernick's issue and no movement towards rectification of the police brutality issue is being considered to my knowledge.

Kaepernick did change from sitting to kneeling during the anthem recognizing the “ultimate price” of those who died in service of their country -acknowledging to the degree he could, the other side's point.

This will end in a new equilibrium with the country more divided and police brutality vs blacks will be unchanged at best. I have little hope that enough Americans will seek improvements in the police’s brutal treatments of blacks because of these protests. But that does not mean they should not happen.

[Sandy]

[Jim]

[Haruo]

Bound and determined to place blame on The Other, eh, Jim?

[Jim]

[Haruo]

It's been drilled into a lot of whites from an early age that they are better than blacks. Not all. And not all blacks have a victim sense of self, and the ones who acquire it don't all do the same thing with it. Most of the blacks I know (including many of the ones who came here as immigrants or refugees) consider themselves as American as I am, far as I can tell.

Which doesn't mean they don't suffer discrimination, or that they are unaware of it.

[Sandy]

[Jim]

[Jim]

[Sandy]

What's hilarious is someone like you even pretending that you know what has been "drilled into blacks since birth."

Well, that answers the question about your frame of reference.

[JE Pettibone]

[JE Pettibone]

[Haruo]

?

[JE Pettibone]

[Haruo]

What's TTU?

[JE Pettibone]

[Rvaughn]

[JE Pettibone]

[KeithE]

[JE Pettibone]

Ed: No Keith I was through with that thread in November of 2017 or before.

[Haruo]

Keith, I don't see any post, by Ed or anyone else, at the date and time you specified (even allowing for time zones). What led you to surmise he might have wanted to post here then?

[KeithE]