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Re: DACA

Postby Jon Estes » Sat Sep 09, 2017 8:21 am

The first responsibility Christians have towards any and all who would be or are affected by DACA's policy removal is to share Jesus with them.

On another forum, this was brought up and I had to admit I got more into the political side of things (though a law still needs to be followed or changed) and didn't stop to consider the greatest compassion for these people is not where their home will be on this planet but where will their home be when the exit this planet. We can fulfill the GC no matter what happens legally or politically and isn't that the charge we have as a priority.
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Re: DACA

Postby Sandy » Sat Sep 09, 2017 11:47 am

Most of the New Testament accounts of Jesus preaching the gospel involved his either healing people or feeding them first, ministering to their immediate need before offering the gospel message. I'd say there's a good chance that many of those who qualify for DACA are already Christians.

I think what we have here is another case where right wing politics weights heavier than Christian principles and practices, especially among Evangelical supporters of Trump.
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Postby Dave Roberts » Sat Sep 09, 2017 7:31 pm

My question is this, "Can we separate the Great Commission from the Great Commandments?" By Great Commandments--Love the Lord...., Love your neighbor."
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Postby Rvaughn » Sat Sep 09, 2017 9:34 pm

I don't think anyone (at least here) is advocating fulfilling the Great Commission sans the Great Commandments. The point of the comment that Jon referenced, at least as I see it, is fulfilling Christian and church responsibilities to people regardless of what choices our government make. I have written my three Congressmen asking them to support passage of a "DACA-like" law. Such a law may happen or it may not. We still have individual and church responsibilities regardless of what happens.
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Obama - DACA is illegal. Teaching for ten years of constitutional law, he knows the President cannot do something such as DACA.



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Postby Dave Roberts » Sun Sep 10, 2017 6:18 am

I was talking this week with a couple ministering among hispanic immigrants. They do a great job of evangelizing through social ministries that become the springboard for the good news of Jesus. The DACA issue (as well as the deportation force) have crimped their numbers. When black vans with darkened windows park outside ministry sites, then the government is using the efforts to share the gospel in its sweep for undocumented workers. By the way, Jon, I can document where and when the black van appeared with its camera lenses behind the windows.
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Postby Haruo » Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:14 am

Following Jesus doesn't just require that we "share the gospel with them while they are being deported" but that we share their deportation. There's a suggestion. Pick up our cross and follow him.
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Re: DACA

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I hope we all realize Hell is not only worse than wherever they came from and is also for eternity. No water being passed out down there either.
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