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Postby KeithE » Wed Mar 01, 2017 9:43 am

I thought Trump gave a pep talk last night by envisioning a better day. But steps to getting there are missing.

1) Suggest he actually asks Congress to vote on existing Immigration bills ( offered by a Democrat in 2013 or offered by a Republican in 2016). Allowing the majority of law abiding/working illegals to become legal (I would include voting rights as well) is something we all should agree on - it as well. Pushing the VOICE office (immigrants are on balance ) and re-useing the baiting “radical islamic terrorisim” label (that tone may have got him elected, but is making matters worse) has to end.

2) Suggest that he asks Congress to vote on an Infrastructure Program (about $200B/year for 5 years) and reduce our bloated DoD Budget (by an equal amount).
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Why not ask DoD to “do more, with less” as well? Believe me, there is that much waste/profiteering in DoD and Trump has pointed out one such examples (e.g. F-35). Trump's calls for expansion of our nukes (ICBMs, bombers, submarine, and even satellite-based) to make us “top of the pack” is pure lunacy. Nuke reduction is in order.

3) Suggest that he stop calling ObamaCare a “disaster” (that does not help and ignores some good the ACA has accomplished since it’s 2010 enactment - 22 million more insured, rate of health cost increase has declined since 2010). The “disaster” years were 2001-2010.
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We need to move to () which will involve a small increase in our payroll tax from 1.45% employee (1.45% employer contribution) to (or we could make it 3.45% for both employee/employer). A 2% personal payroll deduction increase to get complete coverage is a real deal. It hurts primarily the doctors, hospitals, pharmaceuticals and of course it would essentially end the health insurance industry. I know this is unlikely, but we are somewhat behind the rest of the world in quality and waaaay behind in cost efficiency of health care (under our market-based approaches). Radical change is necessary, imo. I for one like my Medicare. It has paid my bills with affordable premiums. One reason is that it has vs the . There are plenty of things government does better and cheaper than for-profit private industry. Health Care should not be a source for profiteering - I've looked at the campus of BCBS Alabama and it is plush to say the least.

4) Suggest that the tax code be simplified giving breaks bottom 2-3 quintiles and increasing taxes on the top quintile. Not what Trump has proposed on income tax.
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I hope those middle class voters who thought Trump would be on their side would see the truth of what he is actually proposing. To boot, the economy will be better served by lower/middle class tax cuts than to the rich who tend to squirrel away more. I agree with “dropping" nominal business taxes to about 15% (from 35%) but only if they drop all the loopholes as well (which has kept overall ) .

As far as fact-checking, read . Better than normal for Trump but that bar is quite low.

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Re: SOTU

Postby Sandy » Wed Mar 01, 2017 9:57 am

I expect nothing from this President except taking tax dollars from the middle class and giving them to the wealthy. Though everything he said last night was theory, without any proposed plan as to how to get there. But he has no plans for anything, other than issuing executive orders which his own party used to criticize like they were the world's consummate evil when President Obama issued them. We'll see what happens when Congress starts to do something and there are bills on his desk to sign.
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Postby KeithE » Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:15 am

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Re: SOTU

Postby Dave Roberts » Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:32 am

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Postby Haruo » Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:59 am

I'm sure all the displaced health insurance folks can find jobs in coal mining, and the ones who don't can join the enlarged (not bloated, puhleeeeze) armed forces, or go back to wherever their parents came from.
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Postby KeithE » Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:21 am

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Re: SOTU

Postby Jim » Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:37 pm

The most important part of the Unaffordable Care Act was the employer mandate, required to go into effect in 2014 and which Obama in violation of his oath to uphold the laws passed by Congress and approved by SCOTUS never enforced, something which dear Hillary would have had to deal with even though the UACA was imploding from the beginning. The EM would have sunk it by 2015 if enforced. All the gorgeous graphs, data chicanery, prognostications, predictions and other totally irrelevant mechanisms can't change that. The real problem causing all the whining, though, is simply that the neo-socialists (either Hillary- or Bernie-supporters) just can't get over it. Maybe some enterprising soul will invent a post-secondary-election-stress-disorder (PSESD) facility to rehabilitate these folks. In the meantime, try valium and watch old western movies.
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Re: SOTU

Postby Dave Roberts » Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:19 pm

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Re: SOTU

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