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Haruo wrote:This president and his press room folks have me worried. Alternative facts for something like global warming (and its anthropoid causation if any) that are complex and subject to reinterpretation are one thing, but denying it's raining or that Saturday's crowd was bigger than Friday's, things that are readily and immediately verifiable, is just scary and absurd at the same time. Chaplinesque in the Great Dictator sense.
Shawn Koester wrote:Alternative Facts as used by the establishment (read- Corporate Democrats) ala Corey Booker, Hillary Clinton and as defined by Trump and his brand of Republicans is any media that is critical of the establishment, or the pre-manufactured narrative.
Shawn Koester wrote:Alternative Facts as used by the establishment (read- Corporate Democrats) ala Corey Booker, Hillary Clinton and as defined by Trump and his brand of Republicans is any media that is critical of the establishment, or the pre-manufactured narrative.
KeithE wrote:Shawn Koester wrote:Alternative Facts as used by the establishment (read- Corporate Democrats) ala Corey Booker, Hillary Clinton and as defined by Trump and his brand of Republicans is any media that is critical of the establishment, or the pre-manufactured narrative.
The miscues and malpractices of Trump and Hillary are well known. What do you have against Cory Booker?
Timothy Bonney wrote:Haruo wrote:This president and his press room folks have me worried. Alternative facts for something like global warming (and its anthropoid causation if any) that are complex and subject to reinterpretation are one thing, but denying it's raining or that Saturday's crowd was bigger than Friday's, things that are readily and immediately verifiable, is just scary and absurd at the same time. Chaplinesque in the Great Dictator sense.
When someone lies even about something small and insignificant it makes me think they are habitual liars.
Haruo wrote:This president and his press room folks have me worried. Alternative facts for something like global warming (and its anthropoid causation if any) that are complex and subject to reinterpretation are one thing, but denying it's raining or that Saturday's crowd was bigger than Friday's, things that are readily and immediately verifiable, is just scary and absurd at the same time. Chaplinesque in the Great Dictator sense.
William Thornton wrote:We could do this six ways from Sunday because there is an inexhaustible supply of political crap material available from both parties. I doubt anyone's mind will ever be changed and it will likely not be long before someone gets their nose out of joint and calls for moderation. We saw that earlier with Keith and Jim. Jim has removed himself and we are poorer for it.
If Keith wants to flail about with his lie meter have at it. If Sandy wants to parrot the dem talking points, enhanced by childish names, have at it. We can all do the same. So much for mature discourse.
KeithE wrote:William Thornton wrote:We could do this six ways from Sunday because there is an inexhaustible supply of political crap material available from both parties. I doubt anyone's mind will ever be changed and it will likely not be long before someone gets their nose out of joint and calls for moderation. We saw that earlier with Keith and Jim. Jim has removed himself and we are poorer for it.
If Keith wants to flail about with his lie meter have at it. If Sandy wants to parrot the dem talking points, enhanced by childish names, have at it. We can all do the same. So much for mature discourse.
Didn't think you would even attempt. Your mind is set n concrete and you have no desire to back up your close-mindedness.
Any else. Even 20 documented lies from either Clinton or Obama?
William Thornton wrote:KeithE wrote:William Thornton wrote:We could do this six ways from Sunday because there is an inexhaustible supply of political crap material available from both parties. I doubt anyone's mind will ever be changed and it will likely not be long before someone gets their nose out of joint and calls for moderation. We saw that earlier with Keith and Jim. Jim has removed himself and we are poorer for it.
If Keith wants to flail about with his lie meter have at it. If Sandy wants to parrot the dem talking points, enhanced by childish names, have at it. We can all do the same. So much for mature discourse.
Didn't think you would even attempt. Your mind is set n concrete and you have no desire to back up your close-mindedness.
Any else. Even 20 documented lies from either Clinton or Obama?
Bingo! You're familiar with the term.
Sandy wrote:If the only thing President Obama's detractors can come up with is his statement about being able to keep your doctor under the ACA, which was factually correct when it was made, and would have been 100% true had insurance companies not scrambled to make changes at the last minute, then you have nothing. It irks conservatives into fits that the Obama administration was never corrupt or scandal plagued like several of their more recent administrations. And as it turned out, few Americans had to actually switch doctors.
Hillary Clinton was the subject of more scrutiny than any presidential candidate in history. If the orange haired buffoon had been exposed to a tenth of the investigations she had to endure, he'd be in jail now. The conservative Republicans, in the interest of cutting spending, spent millions to find out that what she said was the way things were.
Bill Clinton was a classic style politician, and he could very well tell a lie, or at least, manipulate the facts to fit his perspective, especially when backed into a corner. But Reagan was pretty good at that, too, and I think the count on his successor, George H.W. Bush, was about 70 or so in his testimony to congress to cover up Iran Contra. The buffoon administration is unprecedented in its dishonesty.
William Thornton wrote:We could do this six ways from Sunday because there is an inexhaustible supply of political crap material available from both parties. I doubt anyone's mind will ever be changed and it will likely not be long before someone gets their nose out of joint and calls for moderation. We saw that earlier with Keith and Jim. Jim has removed himself and we are poorer for it.
If Keith wants to flail about with his lie meter have at it. If Sandy wants to parrot the dem talking points, enhanced by childish names, have at it. We can all do the same. So much for mature discourse.
William Thornton wrote:Uh, you're confused, bro. The dem talking points are, following the Clintons, lies. They wrote the book. Alt-facts need not apply.
Sandy wrote:Sorry, William, but the standard has changed with the Donald buffoon at the helm. He's made the Clintons look like Sunday School teachers.
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