As Yogi said...

[KeithE]

It ain’t over until it is over.



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Note Trump's delusional claim that "The election ended a long time ago in one of the biggest Electoral College victories in history". Out of 58 Presidential elections, Trump ranks 46th in Electoral College margin.

And we have current Secretary of State favorite . And . Should the SoS be about oil extraction? Even an .

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And we now have all the ideologues, rich guys, Goldman Sachs execs, and generals being appointed to key positions. I would think the low/middle class feels betrayed.

I wonder if Trump would win if an election were held today.

[Dave Roberts]

First of all, I think far too much of the middle class, a group of which I have been a part all my life, is listening only to the news sources that suit their already determined positions. Interestingly, the largest job losses that have affected the middle class are not jobs exported but jobs lost to automation. It's easy to rail against the loss of jobs overseas, and there have been a number of them, but the largest losses by far have been in the automation of factories. The auto industry is the perfect example. I'm afraid that listening only to Fox, Breitbart, and Morning Joe have largely killed the awareness of the truth. Also, the acceptance of fake news because you would like for it to be true does not spell good things for our country when we are too lazy to look for the truth.

[KeithE]

[William Thornton]

This is tinfoil hat stuff, that plus a heavy dose sour grapes. But it makes perfect sense for you in light of your 911 Truther stuff. You are the guy who voted for Dona Quixote.

[Sandy]

Tinfoil hat stuff? Yeah, right.

The fake news, the whining and blabbering about how the election was rigged, the criticism of the media, nice cover. This will be bigger than Watergate.

[KeithE]

[Jim]

[William Thornton]

Ding dong...goofball leftists. No even Obama or Hil takes this position.

[Haruo]

It would be interesting to see what would happen if the courts were to order a revote, but I can't think why they would. A recount, particularly in Michigan, yes. This is why I never vote till election day.

[Jim]

[KeithE]

CIA needs to show their evidence. It is too important to use the “we can’t protect our sources” excuse. Besides enough details of the evidence could be divulged w/o giving names or methods.

But just sloughing this off would be egregious.

[William Thornton]

[Haruo]

So who's up for playing Howard Baker in the show about to unfold?

[KeithE]

[Sandy]

If Hillary's campaign was "inept", and she's heading toward getting four million more votes than her opponent, what does that say about him?

The news is just breaking on what the CIA found about the Russians. We had hints through the whole election cycle, Manafort resigned quickly to get out of the way, Trump actually made statements connecting hacking to the Russians, and its clear, in his transition team and cabinet appointments, he's favoring billionaire bankers with Russian connections.

Trump's whining and blabbering about a "rigged" system, and a "rigged" election is where the damage has been done to the election system and its trustworthiness. A responsible candidate who was a true patriot and who had respect for the electorate and the country would never have said the things Trump said. Hacking is illegal. A patriotic American would have spoken up about wikileaks, and done everything he could to nullify their attempt to sway the electorate illegally. Trump's failure to do that, his encouragement of it, and his use of it is where the real damage was done. This was allowed to happen because Republicans were determined to do everything possible, including break the rules and cheat, out of their hatred of Hillary Clinton. If it isn't dealt with, it will leave every American election open to tampering and interference.

[William Thornton]

Ovah. Deal with it.

[Sandy]

It was "ovah" in 1972, as well. But before too long, the President faced certain removal from office, and resigned. Got some Repubs already positioning themselves, as the intelligence information comes in.

[Haruo]

[Haruo]

BTW, Trump is dominating the Esperanto media, too. Here's the cover of the latest issue of Monato, the Esperanto news magazine.

[William Thornton]

[KeithE]

Updates:



was acting Director of CIA from Nov 2012 to Mar 2013.

says that it was payback for Hillary interfering in various protests in Russia or its former republics. Just heard this on CNN - no news article yet. Being anti-Hillary is by nature pro-Trump. That may be the truth here - only a much deeper investigation can get to the truth and maybe the motivations.

[KeithE]

[William Thornton]

[Tim Bonney]

[Haruo]