AGW/Climate Change Debate 2016

[David Flick]

[KeithE]

I’ll resolve to use the word “skeptic” in place of “denialist" in 2016. David can continue to use the word “alarmist" since a true alarm is more than appropriate.

Cartoons do little to advance understanding and mainly tries to enflame.

But I’ll post more about this cartoon (and the 2015 DATA) this afternoon. I see where this feud apparently entertains many here at BL.

[KeithE]

[David Flick]

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[KeithE]

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[KeithE]

David,

I mistakenly deleted your post that started with “In a land far away” . Then it had the quote I attributed to you in the post above.

Then it had the 4 “skeptical” articles. I have lost those and if you can please add them again (not that I will agree with them).

That’s the trouble with being the moderator - I can inadvertently delete stuff by hitting the “edit” button when I meant to hit the “quote” button.

[David Flick]

[Haruo]

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[Dave Roberts]

Funny that the US Navy is spending great amounts of money at the Norfolk Naval Station to deal with the rising levels of the Chesapeake Bay. Guess that is an inconvenient truth. Wonder if Trump will stop that expenditure to protect naval assets in a very vulnerable area which has seen coastal flooding twice this year.

[KeithE]

[William Thornton]

Yeah. Then there's the DNC guy who said trumps election cut his lifespan by 40 years.

[Joseph Patrick]

From Joseph Patrick...aka Gerry Milligan
For David and Sen. Inhoff (of Oklahoma, where else?), I offer Biblical proof of Global Warming...If, and only if one considers the Bible inerrant. To wit: Paul talks about landing on a sandy beach on the island of Malta. As one who has sailed completely around Malta, I can assure all of you that there is no sandy beach, anywhere. All there is on all coasts are rocks, about 3 to 5 feet above sea level. Only global warming could have melted the polar icecaps to such a degree that there are no longer sandy beaches.

[David Flick]

[KeithE]

Besides your longstanding bluster, lack of scientific understanding, and denialist articles your cited above, you really should have noted that the second chart was global surface temperature (air temp at the surface) not sea level.



In this case it is temperature anomalies (that is deviation from some base period average) with the base period being 1880-1920. I rather like that base period rather than the often cited 1951-1980 which was far from constant. The 1880-1920 base period is fairly constant and more closely represents a time before industrial effluents started affecting temperature by increasing the amount of earth’s re-radiation particularly in the large CO2 absorption band of 12-20 microns.

BTW, that chart above ends your already untrue truncated satellite data temp ‘no temp rise in last eighteen years’ cherry picked story. Look again at very rapid rise since 2011. Truth is we have been on a rapid rise since 1972 - look at red line (6x as rapid as any temperature rate of increase associated with transitions out of ice ages).

[David Flick]