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William Thornton wrote:No prob with the bash Cheney stuff. Have at it.
Timothy Bonney wrote:William Thornton wrote:No prob with the bash Cheney stuff. Have at it.
William, now I'm a bit surprised. How do you feel about the VP's role in the war?
William Thornton wrote:Who knew the attack was coming and "used it for nefarious purposes”?
William Thornton wrote:What "nefarious purposes”?
'we bury you under a carpet of bombs."40 Naik said that he was told by Americans that "military action against Afghanistan would go ahead...before the snows started falling in Afghanistan, by the middle of October at the latest."
William Thornton wrote:Who placed explosives at "strategic spots" in the buildings?
Haruo wrote:Mrs. Haruo posted this on my Facebook page, and while I don't agree with every aspect of it, I do think it's very well put and deserves to be read and pondered. The headline it's under contains the F word. Please ignore this. http://bit.ly/1njzKcy
Mrs Haruo wrote:You don't have to go to Snopes- Frankly, as a veteran myself, I feel it a slap in the face you took that letter to Snopes because there are thousands of us that agree with that writer on many counts. I'm at the Vet Center or the VA hospital at least once a month. Veterans of Foreign Wars post too. Just sit down and talk to some of the folks coming through. If they will talk. I am the mother of one Persian Gulf vet and the auntie of several who had their feet on the ground in Iraq or Afghanistan or both. I have had enough Viet Nam combat vets break down sobbing when they find out I am a fellow veteran and they open up.
KeithE wrote:I agree with every word and my heart goes out to the 100,000’s of American soldiers in similar situations. I also go even further to condemn the war in Afghanistan, Pakistan , Yemen and wherever else it has been drifted into.
Why? Please study these links thoroughly.
1) http://www.ae911truth.org
2) http://www.911truth.org
The truth may come forth if your mind is open as it did to me after reading The New Pearl Harbor in September 2004 and realized how much I had been duped by the media portrayals. Studying 30+ books and 100’s of papers (on both sides) have confirmed that the raw evidence is overwhelmingly against the “Official Conspiracy Theory” and that the 3)9/11 Commission Report was a sham- less spent on it than on Clinton/Monica tryst and delayed over a year.Keith, you falsely assume that anyone who reads the two 9/11 Truth websites (1 & 2 above) with an "open mind" will spontaneously, or even unconsciously, believe conspiracy theories in the exact same manner that you do. I spent far more time than I care to admit reading the multitude of links you have posted through the years. I have done so with a wide open mind and have completely failed to find any merit whatsoever in any of the posted materials. In my opinion, the materials you've posted are conspiracy nonsense. The notion that the 9/11 Commission Report is a "571-page Lie" is absolute nonsense - (as David Ray Griffin declared in #3 above).
The most likely truth is one of knowing an attack was coming (at least 12 countries intel services warned us several times - read here) but commandeering the situation for nefarious purposes. I by no means know all there is to know on 9/11; more investigation and questioning (with lie detector tests) could make the truth become clearer. But I do know without a shadow of a doubt that the three WTC buildings (WTC1,2,7) collapsed due to explosives placed at strategic spots in those buildings prior to 9/11/01 not solely due to the two planes into WTC1,2 - study first link above. That alone begs for more investigation.
Having read you extensively, I have a curious question. Maybe I should couch it as being curious about which theory to which you subscribed. According to a Wikipedia article, the most prominent conspiracy theories can be broadly divided into two main forms ("Types"). One type is "LIHOP," which describes government authorities in high places as letting 9/11 happen on purpose. The other type is "MIHOP," which describes government authorities in high places as making 9/11 happen on purpose. My question is, which type are you? Are you a LIHOPer? Or are you a MIHOPer? Just curious...
Sorry but I must speak out. If ya’ll want me to remove this incendiary material I will.
William Thornton wrote:My main question, let's just whittle them down to one, is WHO planted the explosives. If you don't know. Say you don't know.
William Thornton wrote:Who placed explosives at "strategic spots" in the buildings?
Evidence includes vans operating between August 23, 2001 until September 3 or 4, 2001 between 2:30-5:00a at WTC1 &2. In addition, independent reports of planned electrical outages on Sep 8-9, 2001 in WTC2. WTC7 was an obvious controlled demolition - not hit by a plane, came down at 5:21 pm on Sept 11/01 but announced by BBC and CNN in advance. Mysterious WTC 7 Collapse.
David Flick wrote:KeithE wrote:I agree with every word and my heart goes out to the 100,000’s of American soldiers in similar situations. I also go even further to condemn the war in Afghanistan, Pakistan , Yemen and wherever else it has been drifted into.
Why? Please study these links thoroughly.
1) http://www.ae911truth.org
2) http://www.911truth.org
The truth may come forth if your mind is open as it did to me after reading The New Pearl Harbor in September 2004 and realized how much I had been duped by the media portrayals. Studying 30+ books and 100’s of papers (on both sides) have confirmed that the raw evidence is overwhelmingly against the “Official Conspiracy Theory” and that the 3)9/11 Commission Report was a sham- less spent on it than on Clinton/Monica tryst and delayed over a year.Keith, you falsely assume that anyone who reads the two 9/11 Truth websites (1 & 2 above) with an "open mind" will spontaneously, or even unconsciously, believe conspiracy theories in the exact same manner that you do. I spent far more time than I care to admit reading the multitude of links you have posted through the years. I have done so with a wide open mind and have completely failed to find any merit whatsoever in any of the posted materials. In my opinion, the materials you've posted are conspiracy nonsense. The notion that the 9/11 Commission Report is a "571-page Lie" is absolute nonsense - (as David Ray Griffin declared in #3 above).
The most likely truth is one of knowing an attack was coming (at least 12 countries intel services warned us several times - read here) but commandeering the situation for nefarious purposes. I by no means know all there is to know on 9/11; more investigation and questioning (with lie detector tests) could make the truth become clearer. But I do know without a shadow of a doubt that the three WTC buildings (WTC1,2,7) collapsed due to explosives placed at strategic spots in those buildings prior to 9/11/01 not solely due to the two planes into WTC1,2 - study first link above. That alone begs for more investigation.
Having read you extensively, I have a curious question. Maybe I should couch it as being curious about which theory to which you subscribed. According to a Wikipedia article, the most prominent conspiracy theories can be broadly divided into two main forms ("Types"). One type is "LIHOP," which describes government authorities in high places as letting 9/11 happen on purpose. The other type is "MIHOP," which describes government authorities in high places as making 9/11 happen on purpose. My question is, which type are you? Are you a LIHOPer? Or are you a MIHOPer? Just curious...
Sorry but I must speak out. If ya’ll want me to remove this incendiary material I will.
The most likely truth is one of knowing an attack was coming (at least 12 countries intel services warned us several times - read here) but commandeering the situation for nefarious purposes. I by no means know all there is to know on 9/11; more investigation and questioning (with lie detector tests) could make the truth become clearer. But I do know without a shadow of a doubt that the three WTC buildings (WTC1,2,7) collapsed due to explosives placed at strategic spots in those buildings prior to 9/11/01 not solely due to the two planes into WTC1,2 - study first link above. That alone begs for more investigation.
commandeering the situation for nefarious purposes.
Timothy Bonney wrote:Keith
I'd honestly have better luck convincing everyone here to be a Methodist than you will on the 911 stuff. Sorry, but that's how it is. You might as well move on friend.
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