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Except at Shorter College and Southern Seminary.

Watch the N.C. Senate Race where Kay Hagan faces the Kockh Brothers and Paige Patterson and Jesse Helms legacy at SEBTS

I find nothing particularly SBC about this Stephen so I kicked it out of the SBc forum.

This is really about the fresh wind in the world today - Pope Francis. No mention of Pressler or SBC - old fight.

PPP Forum is as good as any.

Though there's no mention of Pressler in it, and it has nothing to do with him, the article was a pretty good analysis of what is happening. Personally, I think the health care debate is going to push a lot of younger evangelicals toward the left, in terms of politics. Strong Christian conviction ultimately leads to the conclusion that health care is a sanctify of life issue that corporate greed has turned into the ultimate profit motivator. Pain, suffering, and fear of losing one's life can drive up the price of relief or a cure pretty quickly. From a Christian perspective, that's as immoral and sinful as adultery or murder.

Pressler's motivations were stoked and fired by his designs in collusion with the Christian right. That has been established by the most scholarly and hoest looks at the Takeover. Just because Thornton is not convinced is no reason for him to move this from SBC Trends. May say more later.

Republican Herbert Hoover was right. He said, "The only problem with capitalism is capitalists."

Sandy, have you ever read Robinson James' book, The Takeover. James was a church history professor at the University of Richmond. While his work certainly took a moderate stance, it was one of the best researched and documented efforts to detail what was happening.

You state it very well Keith. I remember attending Penninsula Bible Church when I was stationed at Moffett for awhile. There was a lot going on there I wish more churches would emulate. As for the writers of revisionist history books..........Bleah!

Keith- we were there at the same time. I played "commuter fiancé" then commuter wife from early 1974 till my transfer came through in July. We lived just off base in Mountain View, and went to PBC as often as we could get time off from duty. Ate at Frankie Johny and Luigis as often as we could afford the best pizza around, and shopped at "NUDE Furniture" an unfinished furniture place. I remember enjoying the support PRC gave to young musicians, and "The New Covenant" introduction. We saw several concerts of Christian artist's album releases. We must have crossed paths many a time.