Antarctic Sea Ice and the Stranded Ship Ballyhoo

[David Flick]

[William Thornton]

It was 6 degrees here yesterday and I spent time fixing some burst pipes on a rental house...will finish today.

I'm sending the bill to the warmist True Believers who have all that funding. At least that little bit will not be wasted on Antarctic joy rides.

Of course the record lows are to be blamed on all those miscreants who have warmed the globe by breathing, driving, and BBQing.

[KeithE]

[Mrs Haruo]

I am finding more and more comfort in the idea that we live at about 400ft above sea level.

[Haruo]

[David Flick]

[David Flick]

[KeithE]

David, you are refusing to pay attention to all the data.

1. You repeat endlessly the increase in Arctic Sea Ice from Sept 2012 to Sept 2013, but fail to give recognition to the long term loss of Arctic Sea Ice from 1990 until today (there have been many more years with decline in Arctic Sea Ice (extent or volume) than years of increase, but you only bring up data favorable to your biases).

2. You point out the relatively minor increase in Antarctica Sea Ice Extent since 1979, but fail to see the reason behind that slow increase is the much larger loss of glacial frozen water flowing outward from the Antarctica land mass. In total, frozen water is melting into water from Antarctica.

3. You love to give the surface air temperature from 1998 onward, but refuse to look at the whole history from 1750 until today (with it’s ~ 1C increase).

4. You have not even acknowledged the large increase in ocean heat content, and that is where 94% of the global heating resides.

In short, your eagerness to declare GW/CC a hoax or a false alarm, limits the facts/data that you will allow to enter into your mind; they are all just filtered away as “manufactured data” except for short periods where you will use small portions of that very same data, truncating what annoys you.

[David Flick]

[Mrs Haruo]

Well put, Bro. Flick!

[William Thornton]

[KeithE]

[Sandy]

Seems like the scientific data that Keith has posted sounds like the results of an experiment in which the hypothesis has been tested, and proven.

I remember a college professor in a meteorology class years ago talking about hypotheses related to global warming including the shifting of sea ice around the continent of Antarctica, making it more difficult to access the land based polar region because the ice shelves would be less predictable, softening, breaking off, repositioning, and spreading out over a larger area. Same for the iceberg hazard in the North Atlantic, which is a documented fact by shipping companies and cruise lines. The "wobble" of the northern "polar vortex" was also part of the evidence, pulling Arctic air masses down into both the North American and Mid-Asian continents, causing winter-like weather conditions further south. That has happened several times in the past couple of decades, a few years ago in Asia, this year in North America.

The fact that the research ship was stranded in a place that had previously been mapped and documented as an area that was relatively stable is, in and of itself, proof of the hypotheses that have been put forward by those who believe that we are experiencing Global Warming. The American rescue vessel, the Polar Star, was refitted and renovated precisely because of the hypotheses that were put forward, since such rescues were anticipated as global warming made the Antarctic ice less predictable and the difficulty of keeping the research stations in Antarctica supplied would require a new style of icebreakers. Looks like the whole incident completely dismantles the denialist argument.

[David Flick]

[David Flick]

[KeithE]

[KeithE]

[David Flick]

[KeithE]

[David Flick]

[David Flick]

[KeithE]

[William Thornton]

"Ship of True Believers"?