Economics of Environmental Controls

[David Flick]

[William Thornton]

Camille Paglia: global warming is a "religious dogma"

She got that right.

[David Flick]

[Sandy]

Virtually everything you've cited in reference to Al Gore is bogus, or a proven tabloid source, or an outright exaggeration. The Health Wyze Report? Really?
As I said, the whole issue behind Gore is politically motivated, and your credibility here is negated by your clear and outright bias. If you can't get past politics, you can always go back and review the stance that the Bush administration took on global warming. Early on, of course, oil man Dubya resisted anything that would cut into the excessive profiteering of the oil business execs that bought the Presidency for him, but in his second term, his mind and his budget allocations shifted toward an acknowledgement that global warming was occurring, and that the time had come to do something about it. Of course, like most everything else in his administration, he did little more than create confusion around the issue. But his acknowledgement at least means that denialists can't cite the Bush administration as a credible source.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... Id=7115660

President Bush's quote on the subject: " It's now recognized that the surface of the earth is warmer, and that an increase in greenhouse gases caused by humans is contributing to the problem. " Simple, but clearly stated. I'm not sure that's terribly authoritative, since Bush was twice the liar that you claim Gore and Obama are, but there you have it.

[David Flick]

[David Flick]

[David Flick]

[Mrs Haruo]

God laughs while we make plans

[David Flick]

[Ed Pettibone]

Ed: I Love the irony, but we should all be praying for the safety of the people aboard those ships.

[KeithE]

[William Thornton]

But the GW True Believers regularly point to their cherished doctrine whenever there is a major storm, hurricane, tornado, flood, drought, volcano, etc.

[KeithE]

[Sandy]

[KeithE]

[David Flick]

[KeithE]

[Sandy]

Interesting comments from some of the least scientific and most bias sources I've seen David come up with to date.

The rescue operation is being conducted by a US ship, the Polar Star which has been remodeled and refitted largely to open a channel back up to the research stations and weather stations currently located in Antarctica. The reason it is being refitted is because the melting and scattering of the Antarctic ice field, due to global warming, has jammed and closed the old channel through the Ross Ice Shelf. At least, that's what National Geographic had to say about it. I'd post the link but it makes you register and subscribe.

The ice shelves around Antarctica are breaking off, causing problems for the ships which sail to supply the research and weather teams that are down there. The scattering ice, in huge, island-sized chunks, are floating outward on the ocean currents, changing the channels and configuration of the shipping lanes, which used to be pretty reliable.

The ice also affects ocean currents because it cools the water down, changing the flow patterns, in some cases stopping them altogether. It has the effect of suppressing weather-affecting phenomenon such as El Nino, La Nina, etc. I'll bet there's probably at the very least a hypothesis lying around somewhere, with some research, indicating that the frequency and severity of the tornadoes in 1990 and 2013 that flattened Moore, Oklahoma are related to the irregularity of the temperature in the South Pacific, and specifically the effects on El Nino and La Nina. So there's your global warming disaster in Oklahoma.

[David Flick]

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[KeithE]