Economics of Environmental Controls

[KeithE]

[Ed Pettibone]

Keith writes in part Now Climate Depot says:

But as of November 14, 2013, the actual survey with a breakdown of the full questions does not appear to be available for public inspection. This would not be the first time that Krosnick used the media to hype his results and conclusions without providing the full survey for inspection.


Not true. The questions are given verbatim here. By contrast I found little in the way of actual questions mentioned in the selected links 1) - 10) Climate Depot offered in David’s post.

Ed: Uh - Keith where is here ? the link does no support your contention.

[KeithE]

[David Flick]

[David Flick]

[KeithE]

[Sandy]

I see that the source David cited was the on line edition of Quadrant magazine, not exactly an unbiased source, nor particularly concerned about the scientific expertise of the sources they cite.

An example of some of their other work helps place their bias in perspective.
http://quadrant.org.au/opinion/qed/2013/11/haria-law/

[David Flick]

[David Flick]

[KeithE]

[David Flick]

[KeithE]

I’m aware that the Antarctic Sea Ice has not been decreasing (but not aware it has increased that much in the last three years as the DATA on your video shows). But that increase is probably due to Antarctic Glacial melting into the sea becoming sea ice extent spreading as the glacial melt water freezes. That has been the reasoning for the lack of Antarctica melting compared the Arctic which is not capped by land.

Again the real issue is sea ice volume since the ocean sea level rise involves water volume not extent. I’ve already given the plot of that volume from the Univ of Washington wrt to the Arctic sea ice cap. I’ll try to find the equivalent for the Antarctic perhaps tonight.

I will also find and plot the latest trend of the sea level rise which is the ultimate indicator of one of GW bad effects (there are plenty other bad effects). Sea level rise accounts for sea ice volume melts/growth, glacial melts/growth, and importantly thermal expansion/contraction of ocean water due to its temperature.

Hey I’ll commit to going to the Global Warming Bowl if Stanford plays Oklahoma State, if you will.

[KeithE]

[David Flick]

[David Flick]

[KeithE]

[David Flick]

[KeithE]

Colorful charts and graphs display DATA and that DATA is powerful evidence of Arctic Sea Ice loss.

[David Flick]

[David Flick]

[KeithE]

[T. D. Webb]

This Okie is not overwhelmingly convinced by any of the arguments (i.e., charts) for or against "global warming". That said, it should be clearly articulated that the previously red-hot OSU Cowboys were stopped "cold" in their tracks in their futile quest for a Big Twelve Conference Championship in 2013 by the underdog Oklahoma Sooners this afternoon in the freezer field of T. Boone Pickens Stadiium. . . in the spirit of true BEDLAM:
OU - 33
OSU - 24

'Nuff said. . .

[David Flick]

[T. D. Webb]

[David Flick]