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Re: Don’t Despair Conservatives

Postby Sandy » Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:59 am

It's not as simple as just plugging in the numbers after January 20, 2008 and considering everything after that part of the deficit President Obama ran up. Generally, there are a lot of spending mandates left over from the previous President's term that in a political analysis, should be attributed to Bush and not to Obama. The cost of the tax cuts, run over the course of four years, should be added to Bush's deficit total, since that was a Bush administration initiative. The costs of wars in Afghanistan and Iraq should be considered Bush spending. The interest on the debt run up during the Reagan, Bush I and Bush II administrations should not be attributed to the current President.

Obviously, accounting simply takes into consideration the fiscal year, but politically, attributing spending to one President that was mandated by another is not accurate. No matter what position you've taken, there are things from previous administrations that the sitting President is stuck with.

Say what you want, President Obama did not waste a trillion dollars, and five thousand American lives, on a war that was based on false pretenses and accomplished nothing related to either its stated objective, or to enhance the position of America's foreign policy in the Middle East. Don't talk about Benghazi until Iraq has been fully investigated and those responsible for that debacle are held accountable.
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Re: Don’t Despair Conservatives

Postby KeithE » Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:39 pm

Informed by Data.
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Re: Don’t Despair Conservatives

Postby William Thornton » Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:17 pm

The difference is that the WP made a careful analysis followed by their tentative conclusion consistent with yours. Fair enough. You however toss up a bushelful of graphs find a few that adhere to the wall and declare victory. Do you have enough self-awareness to recognize the contrast to your methodology and theirs?

You may cheap shot me by wondering if I don't like facts or Am a denialist. Someone else not so sensitive to disagreement might find it more helpful to take the approach of the WP. It is up to you.

I realize that scientists have declared opposition unwelcome on GW. If this applies to the much softer sciences and politics, say so and you can have the field to yourself. That is pretty much what one sees here these days unless ET or I tiptoe into the matter.

"GOP Gerrymandering"
"Austerity programs won't work"
"Beware...fix the debt

Aha, a pattern...perhaps I could graph it and you will say "eureka!"

Hmmm, eureka indeed...I just remembered that the last engineer in the White House was Jimmy Carter...and we know how well that went. :wink:
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Re: Don’t Despair Conservatives

Postby Chris » Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:39 pm

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Re: Don’t Despair Conservatives

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Re: Don’t Despair Conservatives

Postby KeithE » Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:38 pm

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Re: Don’t Despair Conservatives

Postby William Thornton » Wed Nov 21, 2012 7:49 am

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