Limbaugh and Coed Sex

[Gene Scarborough]

Go ahead, Neil---I have gotten several positive PM's thanking me for making things more interesting!

I totally share the feeling that men need to mind their own business--before their wives just tell them to shut up!

[Dave Roberts]

Cathy, thank you for bringing some fitting concerns to this. We need more reasoned thought and less political pontificating.

[Haruo]

Just wondering if Rush's own drugs are covered by his insurance.

[Ed Pettibone]

[Tim Bonney]

Cathy, I am glad you posted! Far too much of this entire discussion has become a political agenda for men. i was floored when a congressional committee wouldnt hear a woman's view on a women's issue but instead deferred to a bunch of men.

[Gene Scarborough]

We wisely gave the vote to women / we now elect them to represent us / they more often put oil on troubled waters when men a doing their macho competition to the brink of war!

[Neil Heath]

This article tells of several states where women have introduced legislation regulating men's access to Viagra and vasectomies, etc. I say good for them!

[Haruo]

I wonder if there are a significant number of Santorum-types out there who actually think it would be doing God a favor to remove women's right to vote, and to return to the chattel system of women's personhood that prevailed in Mosaic times. Unmarried women are subject to their fathers (or in the event of his absence or demise, their oldest/closest adult male relatives), and married women to their husbands. Fornication and adultery become property crimes. Much easier.

[Chris]

[Chris]

Are Limbaugh's pain meds paid for out-of-pocket....or with insurance his employer provides? Just wondering.

[ET]

[ET]

[Ed Pettibone]

[Gene Scarborough]

ET---

How did you miss the stuff about rethinking the edges of healthcare to eliminate the conflict???

You Conservative guys get so caught up in your rage, you aren't listening nor giving a President getting now help from Congress any concrete "alternate ideas."

Just constant rage and stupid, in my view

[ET]

[ET]

[Gene Scarborough]

ET---

Have you ever compared the price of individual policies vs. group???

If you did, you would realize how foolish the above sounds! I was in the biz and know what is the program.

The valid alternate would be a large pool health insurance program offered to individuals not wanting insurance from their employer. The bottom line is that insurance is "the sharing of risks." All carriers rate their clients according to their claims history and stated health conditions. Someone looking for cheap coverage who has massive health issues is not seeking insurance---but cheap discounts.

I am confident a nationalized public program could be accomplished----but not a long as Doctors and Big Pharma want their high income!

[Cathy]

I didn't start this thread but IMHO ET has set it a drift. And Ed P has approved his off the point message.

If the subject is church and state then maybe it would be better to start another thread.

The subject is Limbaugh's assault on a young woman in law school who was advocating for women and not complaining about her own situation.

The least expensive OCP may be $9.99/month but her numbers were probably based on the higher limit costs. It likely included a visit and follow up visit both coded as contraceptive care (so not covered by some insurance). If a woman does not tolerate the first script then it may become necessary to prescribe another more pricey alternative.

I have read over and over that her point was the difficulty women encounter when they need OCPs for other medical problems. Sometimes the hoops that they must jump through are demeaning and excessively time consuming. That limits access to the care they need.

Limbaugh was extremely crass and his apology was far from adequate. He took her words from a formal appearance at a hearing entirely out of context and verbally brutalized a young woman. I don't believe Limbaugh made much of a point about the church and state issue. Instead he suggested that our tax money would pay for her OCPs. That is also not true. She wants private insurance plans to cover these expenses. I am sure she would want all women to have equal access but that was not her topic either.

[Haruo]

Luckily, since she is not (or was not at the time) a "public figure", she can probably get some damages from him in civil court.

Mrs H just reported that he has lost two dozen sponsors, and several stations have taken him off the air. If it gets much worse, he may not be able to pay the damages assessed.

[Chris]

[Gene Scarborough]

Just make him go outside his little haven of hate and get on a bus with a bunch of women going to their low-paid jobs----even better to a college campus with many women preparing their minds for a future he is trying to squelch.

[ET]

[ET]

So much fuss over someone calling someone else a name.....but when a person actually treats a woman like a slut, we end up having a group formed by the name of moveon.org to, well, move on and have a whole cadre of supporters telling us that it's over, he's apologized and making a bigger deal of it than we should, even though there are national security implications if the wrong people found out and took advantage of the situation. Anybody wish to recall the terms used to describe the women who accused Clinton of indiscretions?

It's also quite amusing to read the comments sections of local newspapers, USAToday and just about any other news source. For people so "outraged" at the language Limbaugh used....well, they aren't exactly the champions of civil discourse.

Of course, for all the indignation that arises over this matter, Michelle Malkin talks from personal experience: . A few threads here (often started by Chris) documenting "family values" failures of the right. I don't believe I've noticed any about the lack of civil discourse from the left directed against conservative women and, for that matter, conservative blacks.

[Cathy]

[Haruo]

My guess is that Limbaugh has cost the opponent of Obama more than the LDS connection. The people who were not upset by his comments were already in the pocket of whoever stood against the incumbent, whereas this sort of thing has the real potential to turn some fence-sitters into Obama voters, I think.