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Re: Making practical sense of the Sexuality conference

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Re: Making practical sense of the Sexuality conference

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Re: Making practical sense of the Sexuality conference

Postby Haruo » Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:07 pm

Maybe not in your traditional KJB or your liberal NRSV, but I'll bet there's a whole lot more in the "Living, Breathing, I-can't-believe-it-says-that Version" with the verbally inerrant footnotes that put Scofield to shame. ;-)
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Re: Making practical sense of the Sexuality conference

Postby Big Daddy Weaver » Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:03 am

The theology of covenant is certainly biblical...

Now, as to the Biblical references (or lack thereof) with regard to homosexuality, Cody Sanders addressed that. He said that some might wonder why he didn't address the relevant biblical passages. His response was that there's been two generations of scholarship in the field of Biblical Studies on the subject of homosexuality. "GO READ" was his reply.
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Re: Making practical sense of the Sexuality conference

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Re: Making practical sense of the Sexuality conference

Postby Jerry_B » Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:39 am

Haven't had a chance to watch any of the conference. If it is laying the ground work for a change in the current CBF policy, which by all accounts this kinda morphed into, then our church will certainly be evaluating our continued support of the CBF. But I think folks of my ilk need to tread very lightly here. This was for all intensive purposes an "academic event" and at such things all sorts of ideas are discussed, poked and prodded that never leave the confines of the lecture hall. This certainly has the feel of such an event. That's not to be naive and think that something other then academic discussion could come from this, but one conference does not mean the sky is falling. For now I will wait, pray and see.
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Re: Making practical sense of the Sexuality conference

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Re: Making practical sense of the Sexuality conference

Postby Big Daddy Weaver » Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:33 am

Sandy has long been the resident Mr. anti-"academic" here at BL.com

The irony is that, Sandy, you consider your opinions and interpretations which you freely give here to be "informed" yet you poke fun at those (with your broad-sweeping assertions) who offer their informed opinions and interpretations in the form of peer-reviewed academic scholarship.
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Re: Making practical sense of the Sexuality conference

Postby Sandy » Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:52 am

An "informed opinion," with a full academic bibliography accompanying it, is nothing more than that if it is not accompanied by a Biblical text rendered in context, and interpreted according to sound hermeneutical principles. It is an "informed opinion," but it is difficult to utilize it in shaping the perspective or policy of a Christian church on an issue, especially if Biblical content is diminished because someone diminishes the spiritual authority it carries, or ignores it altogether because it just doesn't fit with the intended conclusion.

In the Christian life, discerning the will of God isn't an easy task. It is made much more complicated by the infusion of "worldly wisdom" in the form of conclusions drawn by people who have piled up a lot of papers behind them that are meaningless when it comes to spiritual discernment. You yourself (BDW) pointed out that there was no balance in this particular conference when it came to the "traditional" view. I have yet to watch a clip from this conference that contains any Biblical exposition at all. Lacking that, most of what you have here is nothing more than university gas.

I don't know where it came from, so I can't attribute it to its author, but I once heard a statement that said, "If academia were capable of reasoning the solution to humankind's problems, universities would be the most perfect, utopian places in the world."
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Postby Stephen Fox » Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:21 pm

Lewis was once a significant other of the sister of one of Nelson Price's Trustees at Shorter, daughter in law of Floyd Battles, one of Jerry Vines key strategists in NW Georgia during the takeover.

How that plays in this drama baffles me, but I thought Joe ought to know

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Re: Making practical sense of the Sexuality conference

Postby Big Daddy Weaver » Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:41 pm

"University Gas"

Your dislike of educated "elitists" is humorous in light of your views regarding education. Are educators like yourself at bible/Christian academies immune to the elitism that you accuse others of?

It's interesting how you think you and folks like you have the corner on "discerning God's will." Don't fool yourself.
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Framing appropriately, Perspective

Postby Stephen Fox » Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:00 pm

I challenge both BDW and Sandy to do key background reading and frame this whole matter from the perspective of Diarmaid McCulloch's last 150 pages of his recent History of Christianity, Section on Culture Wars and the wider Frame.
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