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Frank Broome and Progressive Baptist Conversation

Postby Stephen Fox » Wed Jun 22, 2016 8:16 am

Earlier this week I participated in a strong exchange with Lia scholl and Elin Jimmerson and others on the facebook wall of PBC where Jeff Hood postulated a provocative post about the direction of the CBF on LGBT calling CBF hypocrites. I'm of the notion these single issue folks are wittingly or not attempting to sabotage the fine work of the CBF. They always have the Alliance, another fine Baptist congregation, to be out there if they need a place to preach.

Frank Broome puts it in perspective this morning at ed.com. Even so its a good tension, take it over Ronnie Floyd and Richard Land and the near comatose Paige Patterson anyday.

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Re: Frank Broome and Progressive Baptist Conversation

Postby Tim Bonney » Wed Jun 22, 2016 11:12 am

It is a good article Fox. But I don't see how it relates to the discussion about LGBT folks and the CBF?
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Re: Frank Broome and Progressive Baptist Conversation

Postby Ed Pettibone » Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:57 am

Timothy Bonney wrote:It is a good article Fox. But I don't see how it relates to the discussion about LGBT folks and the CBF?


Ed; Tim, that may be because you don't know CBF.
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Re: Frank Broome and Progressive Baptist Conversation

Postby Tim Bonney » Tue Jun 28, 2016 11:02 am

Ed Pettibone wrote:Ed; Tim, that may be because you don't know CBF.


Certainly possible Ed. Would you explain it to me?
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Re: Frank Broome and Progressive Baptist Conversation

Postby Tim Bonney » Tue Jun 28, 2016 11:15 am

I just re-read the article. I don't see a mention of LGBT issues.
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Re: Frank Broome and Progressive Baptist Conversation

Postby Ed Pettibone » Tue Jun 28, 2016 6:00 pm

Timothy Bonney wrote:I just re-read the article. I don't see a mention of LGBT issues.


Ed; Tell me Tim, what do you see in Broome's article? I have an Idea that as you deal with that question you may see what I think fox saw beyond Frank's "I have come to understand that we do have two visions at work in our CBF family ". He left the unpacking of of those two visions up to the reader. It seem he sees age as the definitive factor, I think that is perhaps, too easy. On several issues, I am acquainted with folk across the broad age spectrum with dramatically different views. Note I do agree that age is a factor but just not the definitive factor.

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Re: Frank Broome and Progressive Baptist Conversation

Postby Tim Bonney » Tue Jun 28, 2016 7:12 pm

OK, re-re-read article and re-read Fox's post. Again, nice article. But if he is dealing with LGBT issues he is dancing around it. I'd not be surprised at that. A lot of moderate Christians and moderate Christian organizations have to do that.

But I'm also handicapped because I can't find the discussion that I think Fox is referencing that the article is supposed to be in response to.

It doesn't matter much Ed. I'm not involved in the CBF any longer. So, while curious, I am not interesting in fighting over the interpretation of the article or the CBF's position on LGBTQ issues.
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Re: Frank Broome and Progressive Baptist Conversation

Postby Ed Pettibone » Wed Jun 29, 2016 12:34 am

Timothy Bonney wrote:OK, re-re-read article and re-read Fox's post. Again, nice article. But if he is dealing with LGBT issues he is dancing around it. I'd not be surprised at that. A lot of moderate Christians and moderate Christian organizations have to do that.

But I'm also handicapped because I can't find the discussion that I think Fox is referencing that the article is supposed to be in response to.

It doesn't matter much Ed. I'm not involved in the CBF any longer. So, while curious, I am not interesting in fighting over the interpretation of the article or the CBF's position on LGBTQ issues.


Ed: Tim, neither am I interested in "fighting over" the interpretation of the article by Frank Broome or any thing else. But if you read the article, which can be found by clicking on the link provided by Fox you will see that Frank didn't deal with with specific issues but pointed up a need for all CBF'ers work together, despite there being differences. Fox seems to question the ability of many to ignore the Elephant in the room, namely the tendency of many others to follow the lead to the Alliance of Baptist and their unconditional acceptance of homosexuality. Believe it or not I still have friends in the Alliance. Despite my still being of the same opinion that I expressed from the platform at the ABC Biennial in Denver, where we were both in attendance, and had lunch together with David Flick .
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Re: Frank Broome and Progressive Baptist Conversation

Postby Tim Bonney » Wed Jun 29, 2016 12:58 am

Hard for me to know if it is the "Elephant in the room" or not since I'm not involved. It is way more than the elephant in the room in the UMC. It may be what splits us if a solution isn't arrived at. Thanks for the input Ed.
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Frank and a Facebook wall

Postby Stephen Fox » Wed Jun 29, 2016 3:51 am

Progressive Baptist Conversation is a Facebook wall established by Jeff Hood. About four days before the Gboro CBF there was an intense exchange by many folks on CBF Hiring policy that foreshadowed the Orlando statement that 400 petition signers have questioned.

Thus the prophetic statement of Broome before all this hit the fan even if Broome is quite mild.

Pettibone and others can chase more rabbits than there are rabbits to chase even in a fertile year. I guess that's why this site is down to about five active participants. But I'm one of them,so .........
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This petition as linked by Baptist Global News

Postby Stephen Fox » Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:13 am

Who signed it.Where is that list of names?

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Re: This petition as linked by Baptist Global News

Postby Ed Pettibone » Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:23 am

Stephen Fox wrote:Who signed it.Where is that list of names?

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/17PErOm ... 9879227000


Ed: Steve, I too am appalled at the Orlando shootings, such violence has no legitimate place. I am not particularly concerned with who circulated or who signed this document, but with their CBF heritage. Where they a part of CBF when the decision against hiring homosexuals was made? I went trough the take over of the SBC and I dread a takeover of CBF by so called progressives. I agree that the Baptist Alliance is a good place for these folk, who insist on the acceptance of homosexuality as a standard for cooperation.
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