Pending Name Change for Central Seminary

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Re: Pending Name Change for Central Seminary

Postby JE Pettibone » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:44 am

Ed; Sandy what is the WVCSB. West Virginia has long been the most conservative region of the ABC/USA.

Also what does this have to do with the up coming name change from Central Baptist Theological Seminary to the Marshall School of Theology?

BTW as I type we have our rig parked in the Back Parking lot at CENTRAL. We arrived here from Muskogee Ok last evening, we where met by with John Park, Director of the D. Min Program who took us to a nearby Chinese restaurant. Dr. Marshall (better known to some of us as "Molly"
going back to the days we where all at SBTS.) , is In Nashville for a coupe days but has invited us to attend Church with her on Sunday Morning.

To day we will find a laundromat and a supermarket to get ready for the next few weeks of travel. Trudy is checking out RV Parks in the Jefferson city MO area where we plan to visit family for a few days.
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Re: Pending Name Change for Central Seminary

Postby Dave Roberts » Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:27 am

JE Pettibone wrote:Ed; Sandy what is the WVCSB. West Virginia has long been the most conservative region of the ABC/USA.

Also what does this have to do with the up coming name change from Central Baptist Theological Seminary to the Marshall School of Theology?

BTW as I type we have our rig parked in the Back Parking lot at CENTRAL. We arrived here from Muskogee Ok last evening, we where met by with John Park, Director of the D. Min Program who took us to a nearby Chinese restaurant. Dr. Marshall (better known to some of us as "Molly"
going back to the days we where all at SBTS.) , is In Nashville for a coupe days but has invited us to attend Church with her on Sunday Morning.

To day we will find a laundromat and a supermarket to get ready for the next few weeks of travel. Trudy is checking out RV Parks in the Jefferson city MO area where we plan to visit family for a few days.

Ed, your travelogues are interesting. Just mention a place and you and Trudy pop up there. :)
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Re: Pending Name Change for Central Seminary

Postby Sandy » Fri Aug 11, 2017 2:04 pm

JE Pettibone wrote:Ed; Sandy what is the WVCSB. West Virginia has long been the most conservative region of the ABC/USA.

Also what does this have to do with the up coming name change from Central Baptist Theological Seminary to the Marshall School of Theology?

BTW as I type we have our rig parked in the Back Parking lot at CENTRAL. We arrived here from Muskogee Ok last evening, we where met by with John Park, Director of the D. Min Program who took us to a nearby Chinese restaurant. Dr. Marshall (better known to some of us as "Molly"
going back to the days we where all at SBTS.) , is In Nashville for a coupe days but has invited us to attend Church with her on Sunday Morning.

To day we will find a laundromat and a supermarket to get ready for the next few weeks of travel. Trudy is checking out RV Parks in the Jefferson city MO area where we plan to visit family for a few days.


The WVCSB is the West Virginia Convention of Southern Baptists. I think the thread indirectly went this direction due to the association of Central with the Alliance of Baptists, and the discussion of the theological spectrum represented within the SBC. You can follow that.
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Re: Pending Name Change for Central Seminary

Postby JE Pettibone » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:55 pm

Sandy wrote:
JE Pettibone wrote:Ed; Sandy what is the WVCSB. West Virginia has long been the most conservative region of the ABC/USA.

Also what does this have to do with the up coming name change from Central Baptist Theological Seminary to the Marshall School of Theology?

BTW as I type we have our rig parked in the Back Parking lot at CENTRAL. We arrived here from Muskogee Ok last evening, we where met by with John Park, Director of the D. Min Program who took us to a nearby Chinese restaurant. Dr. Marshall (better known to some of us as "Molly"
going back to the days we where all at SBTS.) , is In Nashville for a coupe days but has invited us to attend Church with her on Sunday Morning.

To day we will find a laundromat and a supermarket to get ready for the next few weeks of travel. Trudy is checking out RV Parks in the Jefferson city MO area where we plan to visit family for a few days.


The WVCSB is the West Virginia Convention of Southern Baptists. I think the thread indirectly went this direction due to the association of Central with the Alliance of Baptists, and the discussion of the theological spectrum represented within the SBC. You can follow that.


Ed: Sandy I am at a bit of a loss as to how to understand your reference to "the association of Central with the Alliance of Baptists, and the discussion of the theological spectrum represented within the SBC.[/quote] As you well know for many years Central was co-sponsored by the
Northern Baptist Convention (now American Baptist Churches/USA along with the Southern Baptist Convention. In fact there where those in both conventions who believed that relationship was the 1st move in reconciliation between the two Conventions stat One of the earliest public warning shots of the developing ultraconservative takeover of the SBC was when the SBC announced that they where withdrawing from that partnership to Start a new Seminary also in Kansas City, Kansas. Reasons for that move abound depending on the biases of the one telling the story. I tend to accept the version that says the SBC could not tolerate not having absolute control. At that time of course the Alliance of Baptist did not even exist. Today Centrals primary support comes from ABC/USA, the CBF and others Organizations of which the Alliance is one along with numbers of individual contributors.

I am of the opinion that Central today provides out standing Theological education rather than an ideological indoctrination.
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Re: Pending Name Change for Central Seminary

Postby Sandy » Sat Aug 12, 2017 1:01 am

JE Pettibone wrote:
Sandy wrote:
JE Pettibone wrote:Ed; Sandy what is the WVCSB. West Virginia has long been the most conservative region of the ABC/USA.

Also what does this have to do with the up coming name change from Central Baptist Theological Seminary to the Marshall School of Theology?

BTW as I type we have our rig parked in the Back Parking lot at CENTRAL. We arrived here from Muskogee Ok last evening, we where met by with John Park, Director of the D. Min Program who took us to a nearby Chinese restaurant. Dr. Marshall (better known to some of us as "Molly"
going back to the days we where all at SBTS.) , is In Nashville for a coupe days but has invited us to attend Church with her on Sunday Morning.

To day we will find a laundromat and a supermarket to get ready for the next few weeks of travel. Trudy is checking out RV Parks in the Jefferson city MO area where we plan to visit family for a few days.


The WVCSB is the West Virginia Convention of Southern Baptists. I think the thread indirectly went this direction due to the association of Central with the Alliance of Baptists, and the discussion of the theological spectrum represented within the SBC. You can follow that.


Ed Pettibone wrote:Ed: Sandy I am at a bit of a loss as to how to understand your reference to "the association of Central with the Alliance of Baptists, and the discussion of the theological spectrum represented within the SBC.
As you well know for many years Central was co-sponsored by the
Northern Baptist Convention (now American Baptist Churches/USA along with the Southern Baptist Convention. In fact there where those in both conventions who believed that relationship was the 1st move in reconciliation between the two Conventions stat One of the earliest public warning shots of the developing ultraconservative takeover of the SBC was when the SBC announced that they where withdrawing from that partnership to Start a new Seminary also in Kansas City, Kansas. Reasons for that move abound depending on the biases of the one telling the story. I tend to accept the version that says the SBC could not tolerate not having absolute control. At that time of course the Alliance of Baptist did not even exist. Today Centrals primary support comes from ABC/USA, the CBF and others Organizations of which the Alliance is one along with numbers of individual contributors.

I am of the opinion that Central today provides out standing Theological education rather than an ideological indoctrination.


That may certainly be the case, though these days, with the wide separation that has developed between various groups of Baptists, the boundary between what counts as ideological indoctrination and what counts as legitimate theological education is not easy to define. Characteristically, there is a reactionary element in the theological education provided by institutions which receive at least some of their support from the moderate groups that came out of the SBC controversy, and that is just as much "ideological indoctrination" as that which is perceived to have occurred at the SBC schools. Perhaps that wasn't the case at Central.

It would not appear that offering an outstanding theological education is enough to attract a sustainable enrollment.
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Re: Pending Name Change for Central Seminary

Postby William Thornton » Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:31 am

While you're there, Ed, would you find out enough to explain the name change?
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Re: Pending Name Change for Central Seminary

Postby JE Pettibone » Sat Aug 12, 2017 11:20 am

Ed: William, it turns out that I had jumped the gun a bit. We haven't seen Molly as off yet ( as noted earlier she is out of town, however she is scheduled to pick us up for church in the morning) but when I broached the subject with a small group of the administrative staff who where visiting our coach yesterday afternoon, they where surprised that I knew about it. It seems they are still in the planing stages of a Celebration of the change. much closer to the official day of the actual change over. At that time I anticipate a number of press releases that will be designed to speak to such questions.

And Sandy, as to Central's affiliations http://cbts.edu/about-us/affiliation/ check this link.
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Re: Pending Name Change for Central Seminary

Postby JE Pettibone » Sun Aug 13, 2017 5:19 pm

Ed: True to the pre planning by Molly and Trudy Molly pulled up to or Motor home Parked in Central Seminary's at 8:15 to pick Trudy and I up to go to Prairie Baptist Church which we believe is in Overland Park But the bulletin only says "Prairie Baptist Church Serving as the hands of Christ in the Greater Kansas City area" .

This was one of the very few churches I have been in over the past few years where a late comer might need an usher to help them find a seat.

The congregation was made upof the widest age spread that I have seen in several years First graders through Senior Adults older than even JEP.

There where two Baptisms of 2 youth who in fact had already been Baptizedc a few weeks ago while on a Mission trip to Nicaragua, but when their church family expressed appointment at not seeing this step in their Christian commitment the agreed to do it again.

After Church Molly treated us to lunch at one of her favorite Bar-B-Que places. On the way she pointed out the Sub-division where she still lives in the home that she and her late husband, Dr. Doug Green, bought when he moved his medical Practice to KC, even before she had a permanent position at Central. We rode in a brand new Leased Buick SUV, The trustees lease a new car for her every three years.
She had just picked it up on Thursday before flying to Nashville for a Women's conference with a group of Centrals D. Min Students, in that city.
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